FYI: I should not have written, "traditional rise" in my earlier post.
There's no such animal. I should have written "low normal" instead.

On Aug 17, 8:15 am, Dave Craig <[email protected]> wrote:
> From the Shimano website:
>
> "RAPID RISE Rear Derailleur: Extension coils spring put the derailleur
> in the low gear direction for easier down-shifting."
>
> The terms are synonyms.
>
> Dave
>
> On Aug 17, 6:07 am, EricP <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I agree with Steve's last point.  My "other" rear derailleur is on an
> > old mountain bike with thumb shifters.  My two Riv bikes have reverse
> > rise and bar ends.  So I don't have any problems shifting.
>
> > Of course, when I got back into cycling after my long layoff, some of
> > the first derailleurs I used were reverse rise.  So maybe less of a
> > learning curve for me because of that?
>
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
>
> > On Aug 17, 5:46 am, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 23:28 -0700, rob markwardt wrote:
> > > > I've had one for about 8 months now and have had no mechanical
> > > > problems with it, but about 1 or 2 times a ride I kind of go into a
> > > > "HUH" moment. I know you have to go "backwards" but the mind has 30+
> > > > years of doing it the old way. It's especially bad when I've got to
> > > > think quickly...i.e. bombing downhill, rounding corner, suddenly
> > > > facing huge uphill, need a low gear...AHHH....wrong way! I'm good
> > > > about 98.5 % of the time but not sure if it will ever become 100 %
> > > > natural...you?
>
> > > I went through the same thing with front derailleurs, when I switched
> > > from backwards-acting Sun Tour Compe V to conventional-acting front
> > > derailleurs. I switched the fleet all at the same time. It was a rough
> > > transition, but eventually the old training died out. I make a "wrong
> > > way" mistake or have a "moment of confusion" about once every five to
> > > ten years now.
>
> > > About the only way you can live with a mix of normal and
> > > backwards-acting derailleurs is if the controls are completely
> > > different.
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