Patrick. The Schwalbe website list them as 680 grams. Aren't the Apples wire bead? I don't ride wire bead tires. I think they are slow. I use to ride sew ups or tubulars on the track and road. A folding tire comes closer to the feel and speed of a sew up and will always beat a wire bead. Jan has more of a vintage roadie mentality. Grant's vibe is more recreational rider. I can't believe Grant doesn't carry the Super Motos. I like speed and comfort, not drag. You might as well have fast tires. There are plenty of other things on a bike to slow you down. You don't need something holding you back. So have the fastest tires. The only tire Grant designed that I liked was the Fatty Rump and that didn't come close to the Hetres. Both on the trail and road the Hetres rolled much better then Rump. Did I say I really like the Super Motos? I inflate them super high for the road and never feel bumps because of the volume and width of my rims. Maybe it's the combo of all the components on my present ride that it handles so well. Finding the right mix can be a challenge. There is nothing wrong with going fast. I still enjoy what's going on around me, but just at a faster pace. I don't know how the Motos will handle on anything other then my rides which is a mix of dirt/ hard pack and road. Just my opinion. Hobie
On Friday, March 21, 2014 2:57 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: Hobie: do you know how much this tire weighs? I couldn't find that figure. If it is sufficiently lighter than the Big Apple, it will be a very nice tire for the sandy soils around here. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM, hobie <moho1...@yahoo.com> wrote: I think the Hetres 650b tires are fantastic! Very fast, plenty fat for gravel. I like what Jan is doing. I'd like to see fatter tires from Jan especially in the 29/700 size. Say 29x2.0. I doubt he will because most of the bikes he reviews or rides can only handle up to 40mm? Having more choices is a good thing. Both Jan and Grant do ride different terrain it seems. So how they design a tire has a lot to do with their hood. I remember buying a wool long sleeve jersey from Riv and returning it because the turtleneck was to low. My reason for returning was. "This won't work on the east coast". That was about 6 years ago. If Grant could have ridden NYC this year he would know what I'm talking about. Had to be the coldest winter ever. I think Grant even said he doesn't know "COLD". My favorite tire of all and it's rarely ever mentioned is the Schwalbe Super Moto at 29x2.35. Very big tires but super super fast. I'm using the Motos on a Jeff Jones Diamond frame w. a Rohloff rear/ Paul 135mm front hub. This is the fastest most stable ride ever. Once up to speed the bike motors along like an auto. It's kinda like the A-10 bomber. The straight chain line and lack of drag from a cassette, derailler, precise shifting etc makes this bike move very very fast. The bike is not lightweight but I've gotten up some hills the fastest ever in my life time. Some hills, not all. If I have enough speed going into a climb and can sustain it, nothing has come close. I've used this same bike w. Maxxis Ardent 2.4 front and rear in the woods. The extra weight of the Rohloff in the rear for east coast mtn. biking is very noticeable. I prefer a lighter bike for mtn biking. I presently have a Surly ECR for mtn. biking. The rims are Blunt front, Pacenti DL 31 rear/ Hadley SS 5 cogs. Knard front and rear tires. Great, fast stable ride for tech. MTN biking. I'm using a 165mm crank because of the low BB on the ECR. BIG TIRES ARE SUPER MOTO!!!!! > >On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:59:31 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote: >Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires. (vs the >supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses) From the RBW website >description of a Conti tire: >> >>"...It has a good, stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for more support should you ever have to ride it dead flat. Wire bead. Combo tread. Mounts easily and as straight as an arrow, with no massaging out the bumps..." >> >>Steve >> -- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bqz_FYh3ylE/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
