>  I recall reading that he used one of those flimsy Pletscher racks.

I like Pletscher racks and have one, but do not have a bike it will
fit on well.  Grant for a while was trying to source an adapter to fit
the pletscher on bikes with seat stay rack mount braze-ons.  Appears
as though he could not find a suitable source as there has been no
sign of it on the Riv site lately.

> When he rides across the country (on his
> custom Rivendell, among various other steeds), he uses rack/bag
> equipment that most of us internet theoreticians wouldn't even begin
> to consider for a commute, let alone a 3000-mile adventure.

I agree there is no one right way to tour.  When I first started cycle
camping I used a bike with no rack mounts and carried my stuff in a
hiking back pack.  In the end, the rider needs to use what they like,
as they are the ones who have to live with the set up day in and day
out.  Perhaps I spoke out of turn to say one rack design was better
than the other.

I like how solid and well Tubus racks and Ortlieb(in front)/Arkel
hardware on Lemolo bags(in back) keep my gear.  When I am on the road,
I see many others who use the same or similar, so there must be
something to it.

> Rumor has it that he doesn't even carry a pump...

I will probably jinx my upcoming October trip, but for the last three
years the Schwalbe Marathons have not sprung a leak.  Nevertheless, I
make sure to carry a pump and patch kit always.


On Sep 10, 8:34 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Ian Hibell rode his bicycle all over the world under the most
> difficult conditions imaginable (I was lucky to read his book before
> it became unattainably expensive). I recall reading that he used one
> of those flimsy Pletscher racks.
>
> One of my Saturday morning shop ride regulars is sitting at 487,524
> miles lifetime now (er, yesterday), including many long
> transcontinental tours. When he rides across the country (on his
> custom Rivendell, among various other steeds), he uses rack/bag
> equipment that most of us internet theoreticians wouldn't even begin
> to consider for a commute, let alone a 3000-mile adventure. One of his
> close friends noted that his companions look like they're on a long
> tour, and he looks like he's going out for a weekend. Rumor has it
> that he doesn't even carry a pump...
>
> On Sep 9, 12:13 pm, Robert Kirkpatrick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:01 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> > >  Bikes set up to handle self-supported touring are not really
> > > the best choice for riding around town or - this is just speculation
> > > as I do not race (but well informed speculation as I know all to well
> > > the speeds I cannot reach on a touring mule) - for riding in club and
> > > other spirited recreational riding.
>
> > This is just rubbish, as I said earlier I really only ride my Atlantis  
> > and it is set up for fully loaded self contained long distance touring  
> > - I rode most of the West Coast this summer.  I also ride it around  
> > town, get groceries, do centuries, yadda, yadda, yadda.
>
> > > Arguably you could set up a bike with the Nitto big front rack with
> > > panniers on tour and basket for commuting duty.  But the Nitto rack is
> > > not as good for distance touring as Tubus Tara or the Bruce Gordon
> > > Front Rack.
>
> > Really? Based on what do you claim these racks are better or not?  
> > Let's see your peer reviewed studies. In my research I found the Nitto  
> > rack to be just as good if not better then either of those options.  
> > The BG I'd get but as an experienced tourer I'd never get the Tubus  
> > racks.
>
> > Lot of presumptions in this thread that seem unnecessary. Face it some  
> > people could live with one bicycle. If you can't or don't want to, who  
> > cares?
>
> > -Robert- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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