On Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:40:19 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > > I personally sneer, and do so with great glee and spite, at stupid light > racing frames sold to fat middle aged men who buy them because they want to > pretend they are pro racers, or because they are too ignorant to know > better, or because they want to show off how expensive a bike they can buy. > (Well, I try not to be spiteful toward ignorance.) > Well, I guess you would be "sneering" at me! Yes, I'm a fat, overweight middle aged guy who has a carbon bike! I love it! Now I don't profess to be a "racer," I try not to be "ignorant" and definitely don't have enough money to show off. But, one reason alot of people get carbon *racing* bikes is pyschological. I know everyone here says that doesn't matter and are happy to ride their 20+ lb bike up that big hill. But, for the majority of my friends, getting carbon is the way to get up that big hill faster! Yes, we all know it is still the engine. Nevertheless, IF my friends *think* that riding a 15-17lb bike is going to get them up the hill faster, guess what, it will! If you look at the latest carbon wonder bikes coming out of Taiwan, they are light and so far appear durable! I have an older Calfee (bought used in 97 and have been riding it ever since) with 9 speed Campy and it weighs in at a whopping 18lbs! In comparison, several of my buddies have bought the latest carbon from Taiwan - Willier (15lbs with Sram Red), one guy with a Time (OK, its made in France) with Sram Red that weighs about 16lb and couple of Trek Madones with Ultegra di2 that weigh in at about 16lbs. Their owners are riding faster than ever. In fact, my one friend, who just purchased the Trek with di2, is new to riding, has lost 15lbs and is climbing like a monster! He says its the bike. We all know its the 15lb weight loss. Nevertheless, it motivated him and isn't what really matters? So, if carbon gets people on bikes and out and riding, what's the problems?! Good Luck!
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