Patrick:

As a happy Atlantis owner since 2003, I'm partial but I can also see 5 
months being a long time.  Much depends on what type of touring he wants to 
do.  If it's fully self-contained, camping, cooking, for weeks on end, and 
he'll need to carry 4 bags plus junk on a rack, then either the Atlantis of 
the Hunq would be the Rivendell way to go.  I don't know about the 
differences in frame tubing between the two but if you load a bike down 
with 40 lbs or more, they wouldn't feel a lot different.  On the other 
hand, if he's interested in say week long lodging tours and can get by with 
a couple of bags, Sam would do the trick nicely.  Heck, Sam would probably 
work fine for loaded touring but you may need to be more thoughtful about 
weight placement than on a Hunq or Atlantis.  

I've taken my Atlantis on long 4 bag camping tours, lodging trips, S24Os, 
off-roading, and it's my daily ride.  So I'm actually beyond biased, more 
like predjudiced.  It works for all my needs.  Were I buying a bike today 
for those types of riding, it would be coin toss between the Hunq & the 
Atlantis.  

dougP

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:56:17 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway) 
> and I know many listmembers use them for touring. I asked this question on 
> the iBoblist and got many responses, but perhaps asking it here in a more 
> focused fashion will raise more guiding advice about the choice as loaded 
> touring bike of the Atlantis in particular.
>
> I have a client who is a surgeon (ie, he can afford what he wants) who 
> wants to do some loaded touring. We got to talking and I quickly 
> recommended the Atlantis, and he was very interested.
>
> I got an email from him yesterday; apparently he had called Rivendell to 
> ask for their catalogue and discovered that there is a 5 month waiting list 
> for the Atlantis.
>
> My question to yawl is: considering other possibilities from the LHT to a 
> custom Bruce Gordon, is the Atlantis, *as touring bike*, special enough to 
> warrant a wait? Or would you advise other choices?
>
> He presently has a Trek 1420 that is about 15 years old; don't know 
> anything about that model.
>
> What about a Hunquapillar? -- too beefy/off road built? Sam Hillborne?
>
> Me, having owned a Sam Hill and now owning a Ram with clearance for 35 mm 
> Kojaks and fenders, I'd probably opt for the Ram for touring, flex be 
> damned.
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
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