I've toured on a couple of Riv's (Atlantis and Bombadil) and a 26-inch 
wheel LHT. Had great, extended tours on all. The only touring bike I now 
own is the LHT. 

In my size (60 cm frame), I found the wheelbase too long on the Bombadil 
with the 50mm tires I prefer - and I've come to love 50's for touring. A 
long wheelbase, large wheels/big tires and big frame are a hassle when 
using public transportation and packing for travel. Folks with smaller 
frames probably wouldn't have this issue. It was a rock solid touring bike 
and my next in preference to the LHT.

The Atlantis was a fine touring bike. It was lovely. But, in reality with a 
full load, no better or worse than my LHT. I actually regret selling my 
Atlantis (a 64cm), because it was a good all around bike. Now that I'm not 
mountain biking and touring anymore, the Atlantis would have been a good 
bike to ride off into the sunset on. 

Here's why I prefer the LHT for touring: It's a solid, relatively 
inexpensive bike with functional components and no quirks. It's an entirely 
forgiving (uses any components), easily outfitted bike that costs less for 
a whole bike than an Atlantis frame. The LHT is an entirely suitable bike 
for touring and there are tons of them out there doing it in all 
environments. Something Atlantis owners seem willing to forgive is that the 
bike isn't especially forgiving of chainring size and front derailleur 
type. Most of us have experienced chainsuck. The LHT, and particularly the 
26 wheel bike, can use any combo of crank and derailleur on the market and 
the stock set up worked flawlessly for me.

It is better to be touring than dreaming about touring. Now that I'm no 
longer able to tour, I'm glad that I was a doer and not a dreamer. There 
are lots of folks out there who get hung up on finding the ultimate touring 
bike and outfitting it with the best parts. Many of those would-be tourists 
never actually end up doing a significant tour.

DC

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:56:17 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway) 
> and I know many listmembers use them for touring. I asked this question on 
> the iBoblist and got many responses, but perhaps asking it here in a more 
> focused fashion will raise more guiding advice about the choice as loaded 
> touring bike of the Atlantis in particular.
>
> I have a client who is a surgeon (ie, he can afford what he wants) who 
> wants to do some loaded touring. We got to talking and I quickly 
> recommended the Atlantis, and he was very interested.
>
> I got an email from him yesterday; apparently he had called Rivendell to 
> ask for their catalogue and discovered that there is a 5 month waiting list 
> for the Atlantis.
>
> My question to yawl is: considering other possibilities from the LHT to a 
> custom Bruce Gordon, is the Atlantis, *as touring bike*, special enough to 
> warrant a wait? Or would you advise other choices?
>
> He presently has a Trek 1420 that is about 15 years old; don't know 
> anything about that model.
>
> What about a Hunquapillar? -- too beefy/off road built? Sam Hillborne?
>
> Me, having owned a Sam Hill and now owning a Ram with clearance for 35 mm 
> Kojaks and fenders, I'd probably opt for the Ram for touring, flex be 
> damned.
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
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