Anything can break, and there are plenty of examples of steel, Ti, and
aluminum cracking. Just seems that carbon has a lot of extra variables
thrown into the mix that would make it a non-starter. I would get any of
the above prior to buying carbon. An Al bike is just about as light and 1/2
the price. Would go that way if counting grams. Ti prices are almost the
same as carbon, and straight up better looking. Steel trumps them all
except for weight penalty, but would rather have a skinny tubed steel bike
with pedestrian lugs or brazed any day. Well, maybe except for that
sexy-sexy Ti...

It's just amazing to me that one guy can see two carbon bikes self-destruct
in front of him in one day. While one hit a big pot hole, it still
shouldn't have cracked in half. The other sounds like a total JRA failure.
Just amazing that people are still buying these things.

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal





On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:17 AM, George Millwood <
[email protected]> wrote:

> See the horror stories on carbon fibre at:-
>
> http://www.bustedcarbon.com/
>
> These go back to 2011 as the guy running the blog ran out of enthusiasm
> for the subject.  Still it is sobering to see that racing bikes break,
> production bikes break, 29ers break, they all break and it is disastrous as
> the break in sudden and has caused serious injury.
>
> I was watching the Tour Down Under on TV a few years back when a racer did
> a face pant at speed following a frame/fork failure. It made a real mess of
> him and discouraged me from ever riding carbon fibre.  I know I will
> attract a storm of people whio have ridden cf for years without a problem
> and other stating that those were the early days and all is rosy now but I
> since I cycle to lose weight from this 1947 model homo sapiens I can't be
> bothered.
>
> I run a Company that has payment kiosks fabricated and talking with the
> materials guy at the manufacturing plant, some things emerged.  In his
> opinion and from his research, carbon fibre is liable to fail following a
> nick of crack which can escape observation.  Carbon fibre tubs in motorcars
> are protected from such damage by the bodywork.  This problem has led to
> carbon fibre being manufactured with titanium mesh as the last lay up.
>  Either that or it looks really cool and they can charge a lot more money
> for it.
>
> George Millwood
> Wollongong Australia where it is late Autumn which means that it only hit
> 22C on an overcast day.,
>
>
>
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