haha, I was thinking more like "Grant's Little Red Book" without all the
genocide and cultural cleansing and whatnot associated with that other red
book.


On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The Rivendellian version of Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormon "elders". I can
> see it now ...
>
> Repent thee of thy narrow-tired, shoes-rused ways! Yea, before the day of
> tribulation, when thou shalt dash thy racing tire against a stone!
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> They should do a pamphlet sized run of Just Ride, so we can carry around
>> extra copies to hand out...or is that too forward? haha.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I get what you're saying by factoring in the price commitment, but what
>>> I was thinking was that if it's gotten to the point where the salesperson
>>> has the buyer seriously considering something like an $1800 Specialized
>>> road bike and is telling them they will grow into tolerating its
>>> discomfort...well those are the situations I was thinking of.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "I think certain Rivs are easily hop-on-and-go bikes. If a Rivendell
>>> such as the Hillborne or Cheviot comes with indexed bar-end shifters and
>>> flat, normal-shoe pedals, what is there on that bike that requires
>>> terminology or mechanical experience that is any more prohibitive than
>>> typical bike-store-bikes?"
>>>
>>> That's absolutely true that just about anybody can step on a Cheviut and
>>> roll away smiling, but I think the point of a Riv not being appropriate for
>>> some customer types is that a lot of people would be just as well served by
>>> a Public C7 <http://publicbikes.com/p/PUBLIC-C7-2014?position=tile4>,
>>> or a Linus Scout 7 <http://www.linusbike.com/products/scout-7>.  A
>>> Cheviut or a Hillborne is decidedly better and gives substantially more
>>> room to grow, and will last substantially longer.  But some people can't
>>> stomach the idea of locking a $2500 bike outside all day.  If the price tag
>>> of your bike is a barrier to you actually using it, that's a bad deal.
>>> These hypothetical new cyclists also don't have the skillset to make a cool
>>> cheapie out of a used bike, either.  I am not saying that Riv should offer
>>> a $600 complete bike, but I am saying that I think it's really cool that
>>> affordable practical budget bikes exist for the strictly occasional
>>> cyclist.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:14:54 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think certain Rivs are easily hop-on-and-go bikes. If a Rivendell
>>>> such as the Hillborne or Cheviot comes with indexed bar-end shifters and
>>>> flat, normal-shoe pedals, what is there on that bike that requires
>>>> terminology or mechanical experience that is any more prohibitive than
>>>> typical bike-store-bikes? If it's the fact that it has gears, I don't see
>>>> that as any more difficult than the rest of the geared bikes (provided it's
>>>> indexed.) And bar-end shifters have the user-friendly advantage of being
>>>> able to see the lever's angle change and stay changed when a new gear is
>>>> found.
>>>>
>>>> Add to that the possibility of a pantsguard that doesn't sacrifice the
>>>> front derailleur, a kickstand, rack and maybe basket, and you have
>>>> something very inviting to one who is not thinking "race."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Jim W.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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