What do you mean by "rad equipment"? Just that's it's super cool or is there something in particular about "rad" like a brand name using the term?
Is the slang term "rad" back in style now? If so where I have I been? (out riding my bike probably). On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Hugh Flynn <hugfly...@gmail.com> wrote: > There can be quite a bit of difference between the way the shop owner > (presumably someone who has spent some time in the industry) might approach > a customer and the way a 20 year old bike-fan turned shop employee might > approach that same customer. This is where the selling of rad equipment to > paunchy middle-aged folks becomes an issue for me. While I'll admit to > feeling some sense of obligation to your average paunchy middle-aged human > interested in getting into cycling, I have very little sense of obligation > to 20-something shop kids who think rad = right for all cyclists. > > I rarely (if ever) stick my nose in to shop conversations that don't > involve me, but I might if I were to encounter some of the situations that > have been described in this thread. Then again, some customers are > delusional jerks who deserve to be dressed up like drunk clowns, > doubled-over, and clipped onto the latest offering from Calfree. I > certainly wouldn't try to stop that from happening if that's what the > customer wants or deserves. > > Hugh "Options and choices are good for consumers, right?" Flynn > Newburyport, MA > > > > On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > For the record, the incident I related involved a case where the buyer, > had he bought, would have spent money on something ill fitting, therefore a > waste of money to that extent. This was not a matter of "taste". One may > feel obliged to remain silent even in such a case, but I did not. > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Brewster Fong <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On Monday, June 30, 2014 10:00:05 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: >>> >>> >>> I agree Bobby , >>> >>> I'm all for the support of a LBS. Yet am I based on own prejudices , >>> going to interfere with their business ? This seems hypocritical . Yes, >>> saying my bike or riding my-way-is-thee-way is my own pre-judging >>> my-way-is-thee-way as thee-best-way. >>> >> >> Agree, a shop is in the business of selling bikes. If it is that narrow >> minded to put on a buyer on the wrong bike, then I doubt that bike shop is >> going to be in business for very long. My LBS has been around since >> 1975. The owner is one of the best fitters in the SF Bay Area. But he sells >> all types of bikes. He has the latest carbon Time, Looks, Bianchis and >> Giants. He also sells the new Albion and other steel bikes from >> custom (formerly US distributor for Ron Cooper to Della Santa to the latest >> from the new Masi, Soma and Waterford). He also has a wall full of >> Colnagos including steel and carbon. >> >> But, the key is to put you on the type of bike that you will ride! If it >> means putting you the latest 14lb carbon wonder bike with your bar dropped >> 6 inches below the saddle and 11-23 11speed cassette, done. If you want a >> steel bike with bars higher than your saddle and 13-34 gearing with a >> triple, done! If you're a fat guy, like me (e.g., 200lb) and want carbon, >> no problem. But he's give you a compact crank (50/34) and low gearing >> (11-28; 12-30) to help you get up the hill. He will also "raise dat bar" >> when needed! Whatever works to get you on the road and enjoying your bike! >> Good Luck! >> >>> >>> Is it really ? Compared to who ? My choices work for me, if someone >>> wishes to emulate that in some way, great. If not, great . >>> >>> Would I like if I had business selling bikes, have customers >>> discouraging potential customers from buying my bikes ? . . . I think not >>> ! >>> >> >>> There are many facets to the Golden Rule ! The shop owner qualifies as >>> someone whom I wish well for also , not just a customer I think is being >>> taken advantage of. Vengeance and self-righteousness can be very subtle , >>> like a calm sea masking the tsumani within it. >>> >>> All THAT said . .. lol . . . there is no absolute right or wrong >>> answer, just infinite ways of answering . This, is Life. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, June 30, 2014 11:42:05 AM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB >>> wrote:Caveat emptor... I personally wouldn't interfere with a conversation >>> between a bike shop employee and a potential customer, even if I'm cringing >>> (unless explicitly asked for my opinion)... It's entirely the choice of the >>> buyer to seek advice from the bike shop and for the buyer to decide based >>> on whatever he/she feels is right for them (whether right or wrong in my >>> mind). It's not my place to intercede. >>> >>> While I gain personal satisfaction knowing I have 'converted' several >>> people's thinking towards the Rivish bikestyle, I try not to impose my >>> beliefs too strongly, I simply demonstrate by example. Those who scoff at >>> my bike preferences (as being different from their own), well that's >>> entirely their choice, and more power to them. I have a good friend who >>> rides a beautiful Dario Pegoretti road bike (and only rarely, >>> unfortunately), and every time I show him a new bike I'm working on, the >>> first things he ALWAYS does is lift it and shake his head. (In my mind he >>> just doesn't get it, whereas I'm sure he thinks I'm nuts)... Suum cuique >>> ... >>> >>> BB >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis > > ************************************* > * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to > never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from > it. Where is there a place for you to be? 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If there was a place where > Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of > you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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