Jim, My understanding is that it's not the sugar alone, but the carb/insulen cycle that is the issue. Address that (by eliminating grains and sugars and nearly all carbs (safe for white rice, and potatoes, and any resistant starch, unless you are choosing to become keto-adapted). The book Grain Brain sheds a lot of light in clear language onto this topic.
So while I think the Sugar Challenge is admirable, I think it misses the point -- until we become fat burning rather than sugar burning, we are still in the same glucose/insulen cycle, and nearly always in fat storing mode. As you may have seen in my ride report, I do not take carbs or sugar of any kind, and not much food. I do great on a 9 hour ride at an enjoyable, brisk pace. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 11:37:49 AM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: > > So my wife's work is doing this "Sugar Challenge". She challenged me to > also participate. I said yes, but wanted to exempt myself during long > rides, i.e., anything longer than say 50 miles, as I like to partake of > chocolate milk as a refueling drink, along with anything else I might get > my grubby hands on along the way, like PB&J or a Gatorade. > > Which brought me to a a connundrum. It's one thing to chug down whatever > convenience store food one can on a brevet, but the more normal > meandonneuring type riding is a different story, and something I struggle > with. How much sugar and or carbohydrates does one need for a un-racerish, > un-brevet-ish way of riding? Something that road-ish Rivendell owners > might do when going on a normal enjoyable afternoon ride that is good for > fitness but not exactly going hard? I mean, if I go out for a nice relaxed > pace 30 mile ride and I have eaten a PB&J before the ride, a couple of GUs > during the ride, and another PB&J when I get back, I've diminished the good > things that riding my bike did for me. > > If I hit 15.5 mph average when I'm riding alone after work it's a good > day. If I'm going faster it's usually because I am on back of some sort of > group or paceline. > > I usually ride 24-35 miles after work 2-3 times a week with the available > sunlight I have now. Yesterday was a good example, I rode 24.3 miles > mostly on the new bike path near my house after arriving home from work > yesterday. With this Sugar Challenge on my mind, I did not eat after > getting home and by the end of the 24.3 miles I felt pretty beat and super > hungry. Yes, I avoided getting into the pure sugar based stuff I have > around the house like GU, which I like to pick up on clearance (16 pack > case for $5). But I felt infinitely worse for it. > > > https://www.endomondo.com/workouts/365577813/4841064?country=us&lang=en&measure=imperial&o=course&fb_action_ids=10203766337747921&fb_action_types=fitness.bikes&fb_ref=Default&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[585561874897003]&action_type_map=[%22fitness.bikes%22]&action_ref_map=[%22Default%22] > > So, what is the unracer-ish type advice for fueling enough to make you not > feel beat down when you're out meandering around, but yet still keeps you > sensibly slim and trim? (well, as much as a 6'7" 260lb rider can say > they're slim and trim anyway). > > In other words, WWGD? (what would Grant do?) Something homemade or > homespun? > > > -- > Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
