Sounds good.  Actually it sounds a lot likely riding in VT, mostly the dirt 
roads and avoiding the big mountain climbs.  But there's noway to avoid the 
mile of 8%, or occasional 200 yards of 14%.  I rarely use anything below a 
34/27 but appreciate having it when I do.  easier on the old knees and 
thighs.

Michael

On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 8:07:07 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Albuquerque is laid out between the Sandia Mountains (10K feet high) on 
> the east and the "west mesa" on the west -- a table land some 4-500 feet 
> higher than the Rio Grande valley floor at about 5000 feet. After the 
> abrupt but rather brief climb to the mesa, the land rises graduallly to the 
> continental divide some (IIRC) 50-70 miles west of ABQ city limits, 
> 6500-7000 feet. I live 1/2 mile west of the Rio Grande, so that the 
> geography of my riding environment is a flat north-south landscape with 
> climbing east and west; eastward being largely gradual and continuous until 
> you get to the foot of the mountains; west being abrupt up the side of the 
> mesa, and then rolling and gradual west of that.
>
> Once you get away from the valley floor, though, if you ride north or 
> south from a westerly or easterly position, the terrain is rolling and, 
> generally, sloping upward from south to north.
>
> As long as I stay away from the mountains proper, the inclines are either 
> steep but short (my usual route to climb the west mesa is (to my legs) 
> brutally steep but only 1/4 mile long (after ~1 mile of gradual climbing, 
> continued by the gradual upward incline to the west). To the east, the land 
> slopes gradually upward from the river to the foothills; thus when I 
> commuted 15 miles east across town, a good 13 or or more of that was 
> continual climbing, mostly gradual but with some steeper section inclines 
> (eg, from Broadway up to the University, about 1 mile). The gradual slope 
> gets steeper closer to the base of the Sandias.
>
> A favorite ride is from my mother's house up on the west mesa: go largely 
> north on more steeply upwardly rolling terrain for ~ 4 miles until this 
> particular road turns into dirt; turn around and seek interesting detours.
>
> Long story short: as long as I stay away from the Sandias proper, few 
> hills are both very long and very steep. I don't know the grades, but the 
> popular 5 mile Tramway climb from the valley to the base of the mountains 
> is easily doable in a 60" gear, and I've done it in a 75" with a howling 
> tailwind. Of course, I prefer to torque slowly, so others may have 
> different opinions, but the overall point is that there are no very long, 
> very steep hills that I have to deal with.
>
> I stress that, while I love climbing, and even standing climbing, my rides 
> are short. A good hilly ride won't be more than 20 miles, unless I do a 
> Tramway climb, in which case the out and back will be ~30; most of my 
> riding is shorter still, like today's west mesa out and about which was 
> 16.5 miles. It's not hard to climb ss/fixed for shorter distances.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Michael Hechmer <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Patrick, over the years I have probably spent 2-3 weeks in Albuquerque 
>> and the surrounding areas.  I don't remember any walls to climb up but i do 
>> remember a lot of hills.  How do you get around on a SS?
>>
>> Your note reminds me of a Saturday when I went out in the car to run some 
>> errands.  When I got home I realized that they only stop that absolutely 
>> required the car was at the gas station!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:19:52 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> The usual ride: turned a 3 mile rt by car to PO and store into a 16.5 m 
>>> rt by bike.
>>>
>>> Aside: I enjoy this sort of riding: just rambling around neighborhoods, 
>>> if there are a few hills and enough longer stretches to allow spirited 
>>> pedaling. I used to love this sort of riding when I was a boy in India, 
>>> where the neighborhoods were a lot more interesting than SW American 
>>> suburbia; but there are enough interesting detours around nearby Corrales 
>>> to allow even a 30 mile ramble on pavement.
>>>
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>>> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind 
>>> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into 
>>> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your 
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>>> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was 
>>> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, 
>>> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where 
>>> in your time and your body can they be?*
>>> *  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. 
>>> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where 
>>> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of 
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>   * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to 
> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from 
> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
> * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to 
> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind 
> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into 
> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your 
> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is 
> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was 
> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, 
> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where 
> in your time and your body can they be?*
> *  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. 
> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where 
> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of 
> you can find it?”     -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood  *
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