Retrogrouch is eagerly awaiting your Free Spirit for sale pictures!

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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM, David Faller <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I, for one, appreciate your diligence on the matter of relevance.
> Although I mostly lurk here, I am occasionally miffed by seeing references
> to things that are so very thinly "Rivendell" that they are abusing the
> definition.  Submitting photos or narrative about a bike that has a Brooks
> saddle, but in no other way has anything to do with Rivendell, is pretty
> obviously just taking advantage of the group's good nature.  Such "related"
> photos should be posted and linked to Retrogrouch on Flickr, but not on the
> RBW sites.  I think many, if not most, of us check those other sites and
> should keep the RBW group focused on its original mission.  I really don't
> want to start seeing links to photos of an old Sears Free Spirit with a
> tweed handlebar bad considered as appropriate for the group...
>
> My Two Cents, and welcome to them -
>
> (Redding) Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* CycloFiend <[email protected]>
> *To:* rbw group <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:05 AM
> *Subject:* [RBW] Requests and Thoughts on "FS" postings
>
>
> Hey all -
>
> Just as a reminder on FS listings -
>
> - Please indicate whether or not a listing is yours.  (I realize it's a
> given if you are specifically listing items -- I'm referring to links to
> auctions and CL postings).
>
> - If the listing is not yours, let us know if you just came across it or if
> you have relation to or knowledge of the seller.
>
> - Use one of the url shortening widget-sites (tinyurl.com, bit.ly, etc.)
> to
> create a short, non-breaking link in your post. These are bone-simple, free
> online resources and makes it much easier for others to follow the link you
> have shared.
>
> - Please do not attach images to your email.  Post them online at one of
> the
> photo sharing sites provide a link (yep, a "short" link if applicable) to
> the image.  Note also that some of the online sharing sites specifically
> prohibit "for sale" listings.
>
> - If you are interested in buying the item, please respond directly to the
> seller - not to the list.  Note that the default "Reply" is to the general
> list, so you will need to change that before you email/reply.
>
> A couple other thoughts:
>
> Our list has grown to over 1,100 members in this year.  That means that we
> have become a "targetable demographic" - i.e. a nice chunk of folks
> interested in quality bicycles and related gear.   It seems that there have
> been more "general" items listed for sale here of late - stuff that isn't
> particularly Rivendellesque.
>
> A couple of times in the past weeks, when these have come from new,
> moderated members, I've requested that they be more Riv-specific in their
> offerings.  Neither of those people either relisted their items or
> responded
> to my direct email.
>
> That's neither good nor bad in my book, but it does suggest that some
> people
> see us as a another bike-related list to sell stuff to. Again, I don't
> think
> it a big problem, but it has made me think a little about the group and
> it's
> place in the scheme of things.
>
> I'll be honest, I'm pretty protective about our group.  It's grown to a
> decent size and yet has managed to retain a respectful and personal tone.
> Thanks to everyone for that.
>
> One general idea I've decided to formalize is this -
> FS or Auction listings don't count in terms of making one "non-moderated".
> In the past, I've passed new members through with a single posting - as
> long
> as they demonstrated that they aren't the autobot spammers that hang out in
> the alleyways of the internet.  But, now, if an individual's first post(s)
> are "For Sale" items, they'll remain moderated until they start sharing in
> the general conversation.
>
> This will remain largely invisible to the group at large, of course.  But,
> I
> think it will prevent me from having to chase folks down, tug at their
> sleeve and say, "dude, all you're doing is listing stuff for sale..."
>
> Thanks to everyone for their contributions,
>
> - Jim / List Admin
>
> --
> Jim Edgar
> [email protected]
>
> >
>


-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

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