On the Rando frame (which I have) the Daruma created no issue with tire 
clearance because there was so MUCH clearance on the bike (in fact, the 
Rando as designed didn't need a daruma--there was a plate the bottom of the 
fork crown with a threaded hole for attaching fenders and rack, but I 
managed to strip the whole in mine).  Anyway, I ended up using a canti bolt 
as a daruma bolt after drilling a larger hole in the fork crown plate, and 
there was still too much clearance, so I ended up widening the hole in the 
fender and feeding a brake nut through from the other side, then adding 
grommets as spacers to secure the whole thing.  Because the lip on a brake 
nut is very small, there's no issue with clearance, and I was able to move 
the fender down to where it needed to be.

But of course, all of this is over-hacking the scenario...


On Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:31:56 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> OP was asking about the VO Rando rack, which is different than the VO 
> Passhunter rack and the VO front Constructeur rack. BTW, all have fender 
> mounts.
> The Rando rack goes on VO proprietary spaced braze-on mounts (different 
> than the Riv standard ones) or you can use p-clamps. It also attaches under 
> the fork crown with a daruma, which will eat into tire clearance as a M6 
> nut will be sticking out under the fork crown - this may or may not be an 
> issue.
> In my experience, this rack was a pain to install with p-clamps. It really 
> is designed only for the VO Rando frame, which is discontinued, or on a 
> custom frame. Quite odd that none of the current VO framesets will actually 
> take the VO rack as all utilize canti brake studs.
>
> The Berthoud rack never appealed to me aesthetically, and I have no 
> experience with it.
>
> Justin mentioned the Soma rack. I have one of these and the finish quality 
> is sub-VO, which is to say it's at least a couple notches below Nitto. It 
> sat REALLY high in the intended setup. Luckily I had a lot of tire 
> clearance and ran the fork crown strut under the sidepull brake to make the 
> rack sit lower and actually use the fender mount without close to 2 inches 
> of spacers. As I was using p-clamps I was able to simply lower where they 
> sat on the fork legs. It works fine now, but if I had the Riv spaced mounts 
> (same as the Nitto Campee 32f) it would've sat really above the tire.
>
> I'd say the Marks Rack is your best bet.
>
> Slightly of-topic, I thought I saw a photo somewhere (Blug maybe?) of 
> attachments for the Marks rack that turn it into a full rack that mounts to 
> fork end eyelets. Anybody know where that photo would be? If that came into 
> production, that'd be a really good option.
>
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:43:37 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Anyone using any of these care to point out what they like/don't like 
>> about them from your experience?.
>>  
>> I am sure they are all great. But these things are expensive, and I don't 
>> want to get one only to find out, "Oops, I wish I had known that." after I 
>> unbox it. I don't like to hassle vendors with returns.
>>  
>> Trying to decide, but I don't know much about rack features that might be 
>> a good thing to have,
>>  
>> like fender eyelet, light mount bracket, works good with other companies' 
>> decalers, higher weight loads allowed, rack weight, durability, etc.
>>  
>> I am hopefully going to be hanging an edeluxe and maybe using a decaler 
>> with maybe the Sackville BarSack or a Berthoud bag one day on a Bleriot or 
>> Sam.
>>  
>> If I get Berthoud, should I just go all Berthoud, or does it matter, and 
>> one can mix and match at will.
>>  
>> Thanks for any info.
>>
>

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