Deacon, I have used the Kleen K. bottles for years and only remembering one 
or two incidents of them bouncing out. Probably because I hadn't pushed the 
bottle all the way in.  I prefer to use the small bottle on the down tube 
and a large bottle on the seat tube.  They work fine with either the Nitto 
or King cages.  They did not work well with the Bontrager cages which came 
on our tandem.  The biggest problem I have encountered on rough roads has 
been rattle between the bottle and cage.  The Nitto racks are light enough 
to squeeze and tighten their grip.  If it really bothers you, KK sells a 
plastic carrier that is made specifically for their bottles. I  tried it 
and found it quite functional.  KK sells a variety of tops, although few 
stores seem to carry them.  On line you can get ones w/out the loop, but in 
the end I have not found it to be a big deal; I just position the loop in 
the cage so that it is away from my mouth when I lift it out.  No other 
reengineering is required.

Michael



On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:10:09 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thanks, David and George. George, your suggestion reminded me I'd wondered 
> if stretching a rubber tube over a bottle might grip the Iris cage, 
> eliminate any rattle,a nd keep everything in there. Hmmmm.
>
> I'm planning on the 27oz Kleen Kanteen widemouth. 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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