I have the VO wheel stabilizer and the VO double kickstand on my porteur 
bike. They work well together. I can still tip the bike over if my front 
bag is loaded unevenly, but it doesn't happen often. I consider the 
stabilizer essential for a heavily front loaded utility bike. I agree with 
blakcloud that the clamp around the frame on the VO is ugly, I wish I had 
the braze-on on the down tube.

Scott Calhoun
Tucson, AZ

On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:19:29 PM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote:
>
> My first foray into a stabilizer was the Velo Orange one. It worked 
> reasonably well but you still had to be somewhat careful with heavier 
> loads. What I didn't like was the clamp around the tube, it makes the bike 
> look ugly. When I had my bikes repainted I had them braze on small clip for 
> the spring eliminating the clamp and used the rest of the parts from the 
> VO. 
>
> Velo Orange 
> <http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/chainguards-stay-protectors-kickstands/vo-wheel-stabilizer-xl.html>
>
> My solution <https://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/12151022165/>
>
> I do wish that my Rivendell had the small braze on, because like you I got 
> a lot of flop with Mark's Rack and Wald basket. For this bike I just use a 
> velcro pant strap, while I load the bike. 
>
> On another note, I asked a custom frame builder who was building porteur 
> bikes to add this braze on and he refused. He would do everything else I 
> asked for but he believed that they didn't work and he wouldn't do it, so I 
> didn't have the frame built. 
>
>
>
>
>

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