Hey Bobby,

That is a great story indeed. As someone who has had a passel of typhoons
over the years which have seen a fair bit of off road action, and as
someone who has met and ridden with Maurice a few times, and been a dirt
rag subscriber since the nineties, I really appreciate it.

Thanks

Tarik


On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Montclair BobbyB <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Chris:
>
> I didn't take my Typhoon on many actual trails (although I'm sure I would
> have struggled on climbs), but I sure spent lots of time on grass, jumping
> curbs, and skidding on gravel-dirt like nobody's business...
>
> Funny story, I spent a year a Univ of Dayton in 1976, and took along my
> trusty campus cruiser ('62 red Typhoon with white pinstriped rims and
> bricktread fat tires). One of my dorm buddies took a particular shining to
> it, and always asked to borrow it (everyone else riding their racing bikes
> around campus made fun of my Typhoon)... But this one guy (had a gleam in
> his eye when he looked at my Typhoon) and would ride it over anything that
> DIDN'T resemble a road, including snow mounds, stairs... you name it.  And
> BTW that guy's name was Maurice Tierney, who *(many years later)* founded
> Dirt Rag / Bicycle Times.  *(I like to kid around and claim that I got
> Maurice hooked on mountain biking... oddly there's a little bit of truth to
> that... and we owe lots of thanks to Frank Schwinn, father of the original
> fat tire movement... the rest is history.)*
>
> BB
>
>
> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't agree more.  My tastes in bikes have evolved but I've pretty
>> much arrived at wanting an mid-to-late 80's style All-Rounder bike.  I
>> struggled with the idea of buying a full-fledged MTB for over a year but I
>> finally got out and tried true single-track and discovered I did not enjoy
>> it at all.  Pavement, dirt roads, gravel roads, fire trails and even
>> relatively smooth but wider single-track sounds fun.  I'm more into the
>> journey and the scenery than the high speed, high adrenaline rush of
>> shredding.
>>
>> I think the closest thing in my price range is going to be a 26" Long
>> Haul Trucker and that's what I plan to purchase in the Spring.  I'm
>> thinking it will have the benefits of my Takara Highlander but with much
>> more nimble and responsive steering.  I'm hoping it's my "perfect" bike.
>> I'll probably keep my Takara as a dedicated single-speed because it is just
>> SO MUCH FUN to ride!!
>>
>> I almost forgot to ask, but do you remember if your Schwinn Typhoon had
>> the horrendous wheel flop that many early ATB's shared and also DID many of
>> the early 80's ATB's have that characteristic?  I might replace the Takara
>> as a single-speed if I can find a mid-to-late 80's ATB with longer
>> chainstays but a steeper headangle and with forward facing dropouts.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:06:13 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric:
>>>
>>> Indeed, Mountain Bike WAS an excellent magazine, and (having grown up on
>>> a fat-tired Schwinn Typhoon), I remember in 1985 how smitten I became with
>>> the whole idea of mountain bikes... WOW, the mere notion of riding bikes in
>>> the back-country just blew my mind.  For the entire month of June 1985 I
>>> was on a business trip in Pueblo Colorado, where I would hang out every day
>>> after work at the local bike shop talking mountain biking with the staff.
>>> I bought a copy of Mountain Bike mag, and there was a feature article about
>>> Crested Butte and the emerging mountain biking scene.  I checked the map
>>> (hmm, just a few hours away), made hotel reservations for the weekend in
>>> Crested Butte, found a local shop to rent me a Rockhopper, and spent 2
>>> glorious days riding the high country above CB (Schofield Pass, etc.)... I
>>> was HOOKED for life!
>>>
>>> Now 30 years later, while my mountain biking has evolved somewhat, and I
>>> followed the industry trends for awhile (dabbling with full-suspension,
>>> aluminum, titanium, etc)  I've gone back to riding a simple, fully-rigid
>>> steel frame/fork (kinda like the original 80s bikes), not because I'm
>>> nostalgic, but because it just FEELS right.  And as for the original 80s
>>> designs, I think the industry absolutely nailed it in designing perfect
>>> workhorse all-rounders build to last... And think about it... the frames,
>>> shifters, brake levers, derailleurs etc of the 80s are still around (I
>>> actually prefer them) because they were built to LAST!  It's a shame that
>>> most of the industry (starting in the late 80s) seemed to drift away from
>>> building these super-high-quality, overbuilt bikes and components in favor
>>> of evolving designs, and (IMO) cheaper-quality... I hope we're seeing this
>>> trend reversed...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:01:52 AM UTC-5, EricP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While Fat Tire Flyer was my main influence into riding bikes with wider
>>>> tires, the short-lived magazine "Mountain Bike - for the Adventure" put out
>>>> by Hank Barlow was more my style.  It focused more on touring back roads
>>>> and recreational riding, moreso than racing.  Although racing did show up
>>>> in the magazine.  The first issue actually had reviews of small tents for
>>>> mountain bike touring.
>>>>
>>>> Eric Platt
>>>> St. Paul, MN
>>>>
>>>> Eric Platt
>>>> St. Paul, MN
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I pre-ordered mine on Amazon back when a first came available and
>>>>> devoured it once I got it.  You are right, I almost got the Kindle version
>>>>> but that would ahve been such a waste on a library quality, coffee table
>>>>> sized book full of illustrations and photos.  I've watched Klunkerz, read
>>>>> Barto's "Birth of Dirt" as well as a lot of articles but I still learned
>>>>> some fascinating stuff.  I also highly recommend it to anyone interested 
>>>>> in
>>>>> bike history.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:31:12 PM UTC-6, [email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris, all-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Re: the Marin-legacy and it's influence on bike culture, check out
>>>>>> Charlie Kelley's new memoir, "Fat Tire Flyer". It's a book of both
>>>>>> lavish production quality as well as a compelling storytelling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =- Joe Bunik
>>>>>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/5/14, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> > Nice article.   So basically we are just going back to the
>>>>>> All-Terrain
>>>>>> > Bikes that came out of Marin County in the late 70's and early
>>>>>> 80's.   I've
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > done a bit of reading about the history of the MTB (as well as
>>>>>> watching
>>>>>> > Klunkerz) and those guys (and a couple of girls) were really just
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> > exactly what Guitar Ted is talking about........developing bikes
>>>>>> that could
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > be ridden almost anywhere.  The whole downhill/extreme terrain
>>>>>> thing came
>>>>>> > about when the racers took over.  I know that Repack was all about
>>>>>> racing
>>>>>> > and was a huge influence but it seems those guys were doing a lot
>>>>>> of what
>>>>>> > would now be called expedition biking.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I've evolved to prefer just that type of bike and no longer have
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> > interest in riding anything less than 55mm tires.  When I picked up
>>>>>> a 1984
>>>>>> > MTB last year, I did some research on bikes from that era and in
>>>>>> 1985
>>>>>> > Bicycling put out a book and they were still referring to them as
>>>>>> ATB's,
>>>>>> > which is actually much more appropriate than "mountain bike".
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:21:18 AM UTC-6, Noah Deuce wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hyperbole, sure, but the drum GP has been beating for decades
>>>>>> (better tire
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> clearance, too much emphasis on racing, etc.) has finally turned
>>>>>> into a
>>>>>> >> product "category" that may save the industry from itself.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Just see the latest by Guitar Ted:
>>>>>> >> http://www.gravelgrindernews.com/less-about-the-rock-and-mor
>>>>>> e-about-the-roll/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
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