David, we will expect higher Riv content from you hence forth ; - And no more capitalism blocking ya here!
-Hugh Los Angeles, CA On Nov 12, 2014 3:39 PM, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > As the person starting this, I'm 100% okay with it being deleted by a > benevolent dictator. :-) > > While it was vaguely on-topic (Rivendell/Nitto parts), it wasn't the most > uplifting of posts... > > > On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:20:38 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: >> >> He is going to come here and beg the service that he provides as a way to >> justify the predatory prices he sets. I don't see any good coming of the >> replies that will follow, though I promise not to join in. >> I know specifically of Moser pantographed Modolo levers from Hungary, >> $45/, that he and I bought on ebay at the same time - mine went on my Moser >> and his were listed with a $225 BIN (at the same time you could still buy a >> dozen at $45/ from Hungary). You can check, he has buyer feedback as well >> as seller feedback. He is not the only one doing this - there is a set >> with the same history listed currently for $135 by a different seller. >> That is a shady practice, but is not fraudulent misrepresentation. >> >> The RBW content, though, is that this thread started on an RBW part, >> designed by Nitto for RBW, currently sold by RBW, - a used part offered at >> twice the price of a new part from RBW. >> It is not a vintage part, though he lists it as such on ebay. >> This is a fraudulent misrepresentation. Ebay doesn't have a mechanism to >> report it, so ebay considers this business as usual. >> >> He has specifically come up in the past on RBW water bottles, among many >> other items, and he will come up again in the future. I know of other >> forums that have banned links to ebay over this same type of problem. >> I don't think we should go that far. >> >> I personally would rather see this thread disappear. >> If you think he has the right to take exception with what I've posted >> here, that's up to you Jim. >> >> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:34:16 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: >>> >>> I would think his prices and business practices speak for themselves, >>> not really interested in reading some diatribe from someone who wants >>> people's hard earned money. >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Hugh Smitham <hughs...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't have a lot of time at the moment to say what I'd like to say >>>> about whether or not to let Mr. PB*bikes make a statement on this thread, >>>> so simply I think not. Ebay would be the forum for that. >>>> >>>> It's his business model that's his right more power to him. Folk who >>>> really need that item(s) and don't have a budget or what ever it's also >>>> their right to spend their money as they see fit. I do have a budget and I >>>> would seriously question my sanity if I felt so compelled that I needed >>>> that item at an inflated price. >>>> >>>> I think everyone has been polite. The posting was meant as a can you >>>> believe what he's asking for that!! >>>> >>>> In the end I of course will abide by Jim's decision. >>>> >>>> >>>> ~Hugh >>>> >>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep >>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Cyclofiend Jim < >>>> cyclo...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok... >>>>> >>>>> Everybody take a breath. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm kind of conflicted on this thread. I've been working on a project >>>>> which finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy >>>>> enough to ask just why this is a RBW related topic. >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted me directly >>>>> asking if he could post a response, which is currently in the moderation >>>>> queue. It's kind of blunt in places, but I'm guessing that it generally >>>>> reflects his nature. He does talk about how he runs his business. >>>>> >>>>> I've got another project starting this afternoon, which means I can't >>>>> really micro-manage the responses - which I will say have shown reasonable >>>>> restraint so far. I'm wondering whether the response will simply be the >>>>> gasoline which creates a fairly dramatic fireball. >>>>> >>>>> Like I say, I'm kind of conflicted. >>>>> >>>>> I've followed through the comments so far, and there are many folks >>>>> who think it's just head-shaking funny. The "Sucker Born Every Minute" >>>>> camp. That's pretty much where I am, having served many years in the >>>>> retail trenches in a fairly affluent neck of the woods, I've seen people >>>>> peel off bills or crack a credit card for some reasonable ridiculous >>>>> items, >>>>> just because they were the most expensive. As they say, you don't buy a >>>>> Rolex just because you want to know what time it is. >>>>> >>>>> Then there are a few folks who have used stronger descriptions. And >>>>> that is what worries me. >>>>> >>>>> I'll probably think on this while I have lunch, but when I come back, >>>>> I'm leaning towards just letting the fellow make a few public statements. >>>>> After all, we did start this topic of discussion. I would probably keep >>>>> him moderated, so responses would not be instant due to the queue delay. >>>>> >>>>> I guess the end result will simply be killing this thread now or >>>>> passing his comment through with the hope that we find our better selves >>>>> and pause a moment before responding. And of course, if it all devolves, >>>>> that will still mean killing the thread. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you have some thoughts, share them here. >>>>> >>>>> See you in an hour or so! >>>>> >>>>> - Jim / cyclofiend.com / Group Admin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>> topic/rbw-owners-bunch/_7kAyszzYDI/unsubscribe. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/_7kAyszzYDI/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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