The hub rack sounds like a good idea but (1) I'm only carrying a laptop and 
maybe a coat in my front basket and (2) I'm trying to do this without 
spending a whole lotta money. :)



On Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:35:47 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I second what Matt's saying here.  If you carried the weight down low in 
> panniers, it would feel a lot more stable.  
>
> When I first set up my girlfriend's San Marcos, she tried a lovely House 
> of Talents basket 
> <http://houseoftalents.com/shop/bicycle-basket/asungtaba-bike-basket-368/> 
> on the handlebars, supported by a VO Constructeur 
> <http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-constructeur-front-rack.html> 
> rack.  She hated how much the wheel flopped with any load in the 
> basket--especially her awesome-but-heavy Abus chain.  
>
> For RAGBRAI, I switched those out for a Campee Classic 
> <https://www.benscycle.com/p-2125-nitto-campee-front-rack-26.aspx>, with 
> medium panniers on the lowrider frames.  She loves how the low load makes 
> the front end more stable, even with the load unbalanced to one side or the 
> other (seriously, that chain is like 3.5 lbs).  Her San Marcos now obeys 
> when she tells it to "sit" on its single kickstand.  She refuses to give 
> the rack and bags back!  But that's OK, because I'm paid back by her 
> satisfied smiles when she rides it.
>
> Of course, getting set up with a front lowrider rack and bags wouldn't be 
> cheap.  The HAR <http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rmf2.htm> would bolt 
> right on to your Betty, as would the Big Front 
> <http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r5.htm> or the similar/cheaper/less 
> pretty Surly Nice Rack <http://surlybikes.com/parts/cargo/surly_rack>.  
> There are other lowrider racks, like the Tubus one that Peter White has 
> <http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tubus_racks.asp>, but I don't know if 
> their mount points would match up easily to your mid-fork eyelets.  But 
> clamps work fine.
>
> From there you could attach any kind of bags (waxed canvas is great, 
> waterproof roll-tops are great) or even buckets 
> <http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GlsdABloJOQ/TBkVKXFdfKI/AAAAAAAAACM/_oWNBycvU6g/s1600/Buckets+2.JPG>
>  
> or baskets 
> <http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/da/99/92/da9992ed8733caf20f22024a129bb1e7.jpg>.
>   
> The Ortlieb hooks <http://www.ortliebusa.com/ProdList.asp?scat=21> are 
> secure yet easy-on/easy-off, and could be attached to anything.
>
> A double kickstand would be cheaper!  But moving the load lower on the 
> front would improve handling while riding and while parked.  Something to 
> think about.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:42 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Cecily, 
>>
>> A possible solution could be the Mark's Hub Area Rack.  Due to it's lower 
>> center of gravity I'd think it would have less flop.  That combined with a 
>> double legged kick stand should almost guarantee a solution.   But hey  
>> ...  no guarantees :>)
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Friday, October 31, 2014 5:25:43 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Since putting a Mark's Rack and a basket on the front of my Betty Foy, 
>>> my front handlebars flop most prodigiously (and annoyingly) when there's 
>>> anything in the basket. I'm writing to get you folks' opinions on wheel 
>>> stabilizers, or any other solutions you can think of to fight the flop. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Cecily 
>>>
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