Exactly.

I know the Sam can carry a load but does Riv consider it a loaded tourer?
The LHT is. And if the Appaloosa is intended as a loaded tour bike then
yeah I'd choose it over the LHT, even if it's a budget Sam I'd choose it
over the Trucker. You just know that Riv will come up with a great riding
bike.

-Hugh
Los Angeles, CA
On Nov 20, 2014 7:17 PM, "Benz, Sunnyvale, CA" <benzouy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:04:10 AM UTC-8, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
>>
>> For the price point that has been discussed, it's going to be extremely
>> hard to beat a 26" Surly LHT, Troll or Ogre.
>>
>
> The LHT rides like an old dog. I know because I ride one regularly as my
> commuter/beater. A couple of friends whom I've tried to fit
> bikes-to-budgets/usages also thought it was dull during test rides (without
> me prompting at all). It's utilitarian and good value-for-money, but it's
> not the first bike I'll pick if "joy" is a consideration. For my money, if
> it's close in price and rides much better, it should be an (relatively)
> easy sell.
>
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