One trick I learned while living in Minnesota is to put the bottle upside 
down in the cage, otherwise a little ice formed at the top will make the 
bottle useless. For longer rides a hydration pack worn inside the outer 
layer is best, also a neoprene sleeve around the hose (usually used in 
skiing packs).

--Metin

On Monday, November 24, 2014 2:08:52 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I have been very impressed with the insulation capabilities of the Kleen 
> Kanteen insulated line. I have put ice and water in it and had it out all 
> day in the Nashville heat, and the cubes were still formed many hours later.
>
> I haven't tested it the other way, keeping things unfrozen in freezing 
> temperatures for that long, but I would try hot water in there and bet you 
> get 40km without it freezing.
>
> http://www.kleankanteen.com/collections/insulated
>
> Edwin
>

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