I've had two Shimano 105 groupsets (9spd and 10spd), both of which were 
used on cross bikes. Great price and excellent value, though not truly a 
set it and forget it kinda thing..

I'd ride that bike on gravel road rides, nasty weather and of course racing 
cross. Everything on the 105 group worked well expect for the shifters, 
which seems to constantly need attention. I'd need to shift up two clicks 
then back down one just to pull the derailleur over sometimes. I think it 
was caused by grime getting into the cables/housing, not really the 
shifters themselves though, but it was annoying that I always seemed to be 
the only person suffereing this problem on group rides, where others would 
be riding Ultegra, Dura Ace, or SRAM. If i put new cables and housing on 
I'd get perfect shifting for several weeks, then start hitting the snags 
again.

It's a fact that STI shifters are more prone to falling out of alignment 
than bar end shifters, but I also have a Campy Athena 11spd group that I 
didn't need to trim once in three years... That group is hands down the 
best performing and most reliable group I've ever seen. Plus, it comes in 
SILVER! The hoods are incredibly comfortable, it shifts so smoothly (even 
under load), the brakes are excellent, and the chains last forever. It is 
definitely more expensive up front, but in the long run my 105 groups have 
cost me much more money in replacement cables, chains, housing, and other 
parts.



On Friday, November 28, 2014 3:29:59 PM UTC-6, Anton Tutter wrote:
>
> Yes, White Ind. hubs use cartridge bearings!
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 28, 2014 3:34:09 PM UTC-5, Benedikt wrote:
>>
>> Anton I completely agree with you when it comes to Phil Wood hubs and the 
>> replacable bearings. I believe it's a cartridge bearing. As a side note, 
>> does anyone know if White Industries hubs use replacable cartridge 
>> bearings? I love the MUSA factor.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 4:54:55 PM UTC-8, Benedikt wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone feel that the expensive group sets (i.e. derailleurs, 
>>> cranks, cassettes, brake/shift levers) are any better then the entry level? 
>>> What is it that drives the price up? Is it the performance or just the 
>>> material it's made up of/weight?
>>>
>>

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