Where did you find MSOs on sale? I've found them to be a great tire for me
and want to get some more.

To OP: If you can fit 'em, the MSOs are fantastic tires. Not slow at all
and I obsess on tires a bit.
If you want a bit smaller, and potentially a bit faster, don't forget about
the Challenge Gravel Grinder. I love Challenge tires, and while never
having used this model, I bet they're great.
http://www.challengetech.it/products/gravel/gravel-grinder-053/en

If you want the narrower 32mm version, the Almanzo is your ticket:
http://www.challengetech.it/products/gravel/almanzo-041/en

The Almanzo and GG are probably faster but less grippy in the dirt than the
MSO and USH. Their side knobs are fairly petite.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Jim Bronson <jim.bron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> After doing some more reading and research, I have found that:
>
> The Clement Xplore MSO comes in 700x32 and 700x40
> The Clement Xplore USH comes in 700x35
>
> I think the USH is more what I have in mind, it has a smooth center
> section with the diamond shaped blocks on the edge.
>
> Here is a review that I found on the Clement site, the guy is a lot
> lighter than me but also carries a much bigger load:
>
> http://newenglandbicyclist.blogspot.com/2014/09/review-clement-ush-60-tpi.html
>
>
> Plus I found the 60 TPI tires on sale for $32, so there is that ;)
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Kieran J <kjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Oh, looks like the MSO comes in 700x32 too. Cool!
> > I enjoy the tread pattern on the MSOs and they do roll well on pavement.
> >
> > KJ
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:45:54 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, I found the 700x35 version online, thanks.
> >>
> >> What is the difference between the regular folding tire and the
> >> Adventure tire?  See:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-24675-clement-xplor-clincher-tires.aspx?variantID=74424&gclid=CjwKEAiAlvilBRC5ueCzkpXb4kgSJADxop1B_-hrXETBIefTSLRXuKZnbnVDzMWPXO3fQPjaR-PwohoC0brw_wcB
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Kieran J <kjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Sounds like you need some manner of CX tire. I've had good luck with
> the
> >> > Clement MSO 700x40 tires but they would likely not fit on the
> Redwood. I
> >> > believe there is a similar version in 700x35 (USH-something or
> rather).
> >> >
> >> > KJ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:34:51 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX,
> route
> >> >> 2531
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531
> >> >>
> >> >> The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit
> >> >> more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX
> and
> >> >> Lincoln, TX.  A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for
> >> >> riding this stretch.  I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois,
> one
> >> >> running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups.
> >> >>
> >> >> There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel
> >> >> and some paved stretches.  Our back tires kept sliding sideways when
> >> >> we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would
> >> >> have to correct.  Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of
> >> >> times it was close.  It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for
> >> >> me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires.
> >> >>
> >> >> What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on
> >> >> pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end
> >> >> slide-outs on soft dirt and sand.  But not so much tread that it digs
> >> >> itself into soft surfaces.
> >> >>
> >> >> The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think.
> >> >>
> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm
> >> >>
> >> >> BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42.  It would
> >> >> fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I
> >> >> would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any suggestions?  Must roll good on pavement as well.
> >> >>
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