Thanks for the question. Take a good look at this picture. It was posted earlier in the thread.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15464068173 Notice where the weight is. It is in front of the front axle. This unweights the frame, overweights the struts, and seriously compromises steering. This position is a function of geometry, not basket or rack attachment. You could weld the struts to the fork blades and the load would still be unstable. I have an Atlantis. For all of its goodness it will never handle loads like the Worksman link I posted above, neither will the Hunq. On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 10:48:39 AM UTC-5, ian m wrote: > > Will, how is sway from a heavy loaded front basket a function of bicycle > geometry? Seems to me it's more a function of the way the basket attaches > to the bicycle, which are two points near the stem and two point at the > front axle, which doesn't make for a particularly laterally stiff design. > > Similar to the American newsboys of yesteryear, the French porteur's > carried heavy loads of newspapers on the front of their bicycles, but with > stiffer steel racks. In my experience a heavy load on a one of these racks > is much easier to handle with all other aspects (wheel strength, pneumatic > cushion) remaining the same. A basket attached to the rack as on the > Hunqapillar recently posted on Riv Blug is like the best of both worlds, > especially since heavier loads can be attached by pannier closer to the > front wheel's axle. > > On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 9:10:11 AM UTC-7, Will wrote: >> >> Not my experience. We routinely carried between 65-70 newspapers in the >> Wald front delivery baskets. And loaded the back baskets on Sundays when >> the papers were twice as large and heavy. Never a problem. Swaying is a >> function of bicycle geometry, wheel strength (spokes+dish), and pneumatic >> cushion. Our paper bikes looked a lot like these... >> >> http://www.worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/indbikes.html >> >> When you look at the "industrial newsboy" you will note both baskets >> (front and back) are angled towards the frame center. You will also note >> the head and seat tube angles and chain stay length. That's the way to keep >> load distribution inside of the axles. If the balance point creeps outside >> the axle, you have major vibration issues. The bike shimmies, wobbles, and >> is hard to steer. >> >> >> On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 12:54:16 PM UTC-5, ian m wrote: >>> >>> Loaded up with a couple grocery bags those Wald baskets will sway back >>> and forth in front of you like a drunk tourist on a fishing boat. Ziptied >>> to a solid and stable rack there is zero movement and handling feels good. >>> That's my experience anyway >>> >>> On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 8:16:26 AM UTC-7, Will wrote: >>>> >>>> You could simply mount the Wald as it is manufactured. I had these on >>>> my newspaper bikes back in the day. They are bullet-proof, heavy haulers. >>>> I >>>> cannot imagine that a basket ziptied to a rack would be more stable or >>>> durable than this original Wald set-up. Wald is working-class cred. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.waldsports.com/waldsports/cache/file/459BD3F9-3E6A-4C02-8626D7A8CBA30A5A.jpg >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:10:36 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, I can't trade my awesome Pass & Stow rack for a smaller front rack >>>>> and a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter too >>>>> often and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the porter >>>>> rack is so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of porter >>>>> racks feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass & Stow is otherwise excellent >>>>> and >>>>> the maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, and these things >>>>> must be questioned. >>>>> Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass & Stow and the >>>>> whole thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of dandy-ism. >>>>> So >>>>> why is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same >>>>> rack. >>>>> The same Cap'n Hook net. >>>>> One cheap beat up basket. >>>>> Time to order a Wald. >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
