On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 1:51:41 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 05/18/2015 04:42 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
>  
>
> On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 11:03:00 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
>>
>> On 05/18/2015 01:24 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: 
>> > ...of course we all must realize  that the most well researched, 
>> > carefully chosen, and costly bike/stroller may not be the best choice 
>> > for a person/use.  The person on their $5000+ carbon bike most likely 
>> > feels that they made an informed decision even though they would be 
>> > more comfortable on an upright bike with proper gearing and a 
>> > comfortable seat ( where have I heard that before?). 
>>
>> Why are we all assuming the person who bought the $5000 carbon road bike 
>> made a bad choice?  Simply because you saw them riding on the MUP with 
>> it?  It may be their only bike, and although it might be sub-optimal for 
>> a MUP they may do most of their riding on roads and in groups where such 
>> a bike is a perfectly appropriate choice. What's more, because you are 
>> more comfortable on an upright bike, why assume they would be?  Not 
>> everyone finds road bikes uncomfortable, and not everyone finds upright 
>> bikes comfortable. And, of course, everyone's idea of a comfortable seat 
>> is different. 
>>
>  
> Of course, now a days, a lot of $5000 carbon bikes are designed with 
> "upright" seating position for more comfort!  For example, last year my 
> buddy, who just got in cycling, went into a Trek store and bought that $5k 
> carbon bike! Electronic di2 shifting, tubeless ready wheels (I was able to 
> talk him into 700x25 tires!), 600 series carbon frames, integrated garmin 
> sensors.... Well, he also got the "H2" fitting position! This is the one 
> that has a sloping top tube and a higher head tube for, guess 
> what?.....wait....yup, to get that handlebar higher!  Not only is my buddy 
> comfortable, he ended up losing 30+lbs and is now one of the fastest guys 
> up the hill!   What's not to like?!
>  
>
> The Trek H2 is a far cry from "upright."   For most riders other than 
> racers, it's far more appropriate than the H1, though.
>
 
I don't know, the shop gave him quite a bit of spacers and the bar was 
actually pretty high. Maybe not Nitto technomic high, but his bars were 
definitely pointed up! In fact, once he loss weight, I hate him, he 
actually flipped the stem because he was able to get lower!  I just 
laughed. But as long as he's comfortable, that is what matters! Good Luck! 

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