Not that this is thread drift or anything... My Ram has 62.3mm of trail, the Saluki had 61.5. Both intended for no more than a light front bag like a L'il Loafer. They track around curvy descents like they are on rails. Love it.
My Road has 53.8mm of trail and the Waterford 1100 I used to pedal had 54.2. A UJB Nashbar lugged steel frame has 54.9. All have great quick handling and could dodge other riders or road obstacles instantly. Love it. My latest 650B conversion, an '84 TREK 660, now sports 52.6mm trail. Love it maybe the most, but I think that is more the springy Reynolds 531CS tubeset than anything else. Can I pedal any of them no hands? yes. Do I want to load all of them down with bags? No. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Will <waller.will...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think this low trail vs high trail issue is overly philosophized. > > When I was delivering newspapers, years ago, I needed a bike designed for > 40 pound front loads. Worksman makes them. > > If I did 200K randoneurring, like Jan Heine, I'd want a very fast bike > that carried 8 pounds of stuff in front and a had a map platform. Boulder > makes them. > > However... what I need these days is: a bike racked in the rear for a > pannier for shopping and commuting. Because I want an uncluttered front for > lights. Ergo Rivendell. > > Which is to say: Riv's philosophy fits me. It covers 90% of my rides. > > I have nothing against trail this-or-that, but I think overall use profile > discussions are more relevant. > > > > > On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 11:19:10 AM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 11:20:07 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: >>> >>> A super lightweight, thin walled, low trailed, canti'd, Rivrando machine >>> with an integrated SILVER front rack with light mount on the USA side of >>> the rack and integrated light wiring/carbon brush in the steerer would make >>> me very interested. >>> >>> >> Have you ridden low trailed and liked it? If so, there are good builders >> who do that. GP has explained his ideas of handling numerous times over the >> years, and I doubt he'll be changing his mind: >> http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=34 >> >> I agree with him, which is why I like the way Riv's handle. If you like >> Riv handling and want a light bike, get a Roadeo. If you want low trail, >> you'll have to get a non-Riv. >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/P2vt9ucoyI8/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
