Ron, 
Thanks for the list. I use and like the WCS bars on one bike and noodles on 
another, so I must be on the right track. :) 
Jason




> On Jun 1, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Ron Mc <bulldog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jason if you look at bars like Ritchey WCS - the reach measures the same 
> as noodles - but they are much flatter than noodles.  Deda Newtons are 
> equivalently long and flatter.  Modolo X-boost is longer.  
> My favorite drops are compact - Cinelli 64
> 
>> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 4:18:49 PM UTC-5, Jason Leach wrote:
>> Ron, It has been my experience that modern bars have the shortest and most 
>> steep ramps. Even in the page you referenced the author mentions that ramps 
>> shrank as a response to integrated shift/brake levers. Was there a specific 
>> bar you had in mind when you said that? I really enjoy both flat ramps and 
>> ergo drops  so I am interested in a model I may have overlooked. 
>> 
>> Jayme, while randonneur bars do have more flare, they also tend to have 
>> curved tops that bend on a different plane than the noodles - they bump up 
>> rather than sweep back. I find the shape rather uncomfortable. YMMV 
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rando bar has more flare, Maes bar has more reach, the longest flattest 
>>> ramps are on modern ergo bars, but they typically have zero flare.  
>>> You might want to look over this website:  
>>> http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-drop-bar-geometry/
>>> 
>>>> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 9:41:57 AM UTC-5, Jayme Frye wrote:
>>>> Bent my Noodle bars in a crash and must replace. Part replacement always 
>>>> stirs thoughts of what else is available that I might like. The things I 
>>>> like about the Noodle bars are the long flat ramps behind the hoods as a 
>>>> hand position and the flair of the drops. From the more must be better 
>>>> school of thought does anyone know of a bar with a bit flatter/longer 
>>>> ramps and more flair at the drops? 
>>>> 
>>>> Jayme
>>> 
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