there is an ebay vendor who has the black ones in choice of 4 different 
lengths, pair, for $6.24 shipped.  
search Coghlan's Arno Straps

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 8:39:54 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Yeah these are nice. I believe REI has different lengths as well.
>
> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 8:58:11 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Arno strap it is!  I'll decide if I can wait, or buy a couple from REI. 
>>  Thanks!
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 4:46:36 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:
>>>
>>> I think Arno straps are what you're looking for and probably readily 
>>> available at your nearest REI. They're longer than the Riv Irish strap but 
>>> the buckle and strap width are identical enough. 
>>> http://www.rei.com/product/833518/coghlans-arno-straps
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 6:22:49 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I need a few Irish Straps.  $8 is a bit pricey, but I love how they 
>>>> look, so I'm usually happy to spring for them.  Turns out Riv is out of 
>>>> them for now.  A couple years back I was in the lame camping aisle at my 
>>>> Ace Hardware.  They had a Coleman brand tie-down strap that had the 
>>>> identical buckle to an Irish strap.  It was totally the same thing, and it 
>>>> was $4 for a pair.  I bought a pair on a whim and have used those black 
>>>> Coleman straps and Irish straps side-by-side and interchangeably.  Now, 
>>>> the 
>>>> tie-down strap that Coleman sells is a lame chinese plastic buckle thing 
>>>> and is just not an acceptable replacement for the Irish Strap.  
>>>>
>>>> Is there a suitable replacement for an Irish strap?  Same length and 
>>>> width, same metal spring-loaded buckle?  Or should I wait a few more weeks 
>>>> for Riv to have the real deal?
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>

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