Drew, 

I went with the 8cm Tallux from Riv 
(http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st1.htm).  At the risk of sounding 
superficial, the decision was more aesthetic than functional.  I thought 
about the dirt drop but I like, what I consider, the more iconic look of 
the tallux (my 11cm is the Technomic Deluxe which is very nice).  I just 
like the look of that style of stem on the Hillborne much more than the 
dirt drop.  Plus, I didn't foresee any situations where the "pointy bit" 
might cause a problem for me.  Soon after buying the albastache cockpit, I 
shed the fenders and put Smart Sams on and have been hitting the trails a 
lot more often.  I might have rethought the dirt drop for that but still 
don't foresee a problem with the tallux.  Very pleased how it turned out.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/

Enjoy the albastache!
John

On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 11:29:52 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> thanks guys, that makes sense. 
>
> john, are you using an 8cm dirt drop or tallux stem?
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for 
>> me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross 
>> bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height.  wondering what sort of 
>> stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and 
>> reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. 
>>  then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too.  is 
>> there math that can be done,  or is this more of a "try it and see 
>> situation"? 
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>

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