On 07/02/2015 12:58 PM, Clayton.sf wrote:

Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 8 speed bar ends in friction mode


Actually, "the internet" says you can't /index shift/ Dyna-sys rear mechs with anything but Dyna-sys shifters, because the Dyna-sys rear mech's cable pull requirement is different from the road derailleurs, and the indexed bar end shifters and road STI brifters pull matches road and non-Dyna-sys rear derailleurs. When you're friction shifting, it isn't the placement of detents that determines when you've shifted enough, it's operator wetware that does the job. So as long as the friction shifter pulls enough cable to get the rear derailleur to travel through its full range and as long as operator wetware is sufficiently sensitive to detect when you've moved the rear mech enough to accurately complete the shift, you're good to go.


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