Jim, that does help and I appreciate the response. I am just confused as to 
why Riv says it is a strange grouping of shifter to gears. It seems that 
you'll hear the click in the shifter but that may not necessarily coincide 
with a shift. Anyway, I'm an amateur in this area and am just confused. 

On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 2:02:37 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Hey there Doug - 
>
> Welcome to our merry band....
>
> Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as a bike with friction shifting. 
>  By that, I mean that it's the shifters themselves which create the 
> indexing.  So - as long as derailleur is compatible with the shifting 
> mechanism (some systems use 1:1 cable pull, others 2:1) and the shifter has 
> as many steps as the number of cogs (8 speed shifters for 8 cogs, 9 for 9, 
> 10 for 10, 11 for 11, etc...) it will work.
>
> If that's what you are comfortable with, then there's no reason not to use 
> them.  But, if you have a chance to ride with a simpler, more direct 
> connection like the silver or other shifters, you may find it more 
> intuitive and simpler.  I've found that the most indexed systems tend to 
> start shifting well and then slouch towards entropy.  Kind of feel that you 
> end up tweaking and tending to rather than riding (especially if you tend 
> to ride in a variety of conditions and terrain).  There are plenty of RBW 
> riders who have Shimano or Campagnolo shifters on their rigs.  
>
> hope that helps!
>
> - Jim
>
>
> On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote:
>>
>> New member here, first post. I am enjoying this group and appreciate the 
>> input from all. I am also considering the Clem Smith Jr. and have a 
>> question about the use of index shifters on a bike with friction shifting. 
>> The Riv website says it is weird but won't cause issues while riding. I'm 
>> looking for your thoughts and whether anyone has any experience with this 
>> setup.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doug
>>
>

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