They're $40 retail, so you may just want to go and order them (should be
available by the end of the month).

I thoroughly confused my LBS yesterday when I ordered them.  I kind of like
blowing their mind by the weird stuff I get, but it gets a little bit old
having to explain everything to them.  Aren't they the professionals?  I
mean really, if I owned a shop, I would make it my business to know what
products were coming out, how things were rated, what people were excited
about.  Yeah, Salsa Fargos & woodchippers are pretty niche stuff, but still,
they're the professionals right????

/rant


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Ray Shine <[email protected]> wrote:

> David -- Please don't forget to post that report when your WCs arrive.  I
> am looking hard at that bar as well.  Thanks for the link.
>
> RS
>
> --- On *Mon, 11/9/09, cyclotourist <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: cyclotourist <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: NOW: off-road handlebars WAS: Long introduction and
> question on frame and handlebar options from newbie to the list
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:54 PM
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:48 AM, PATRICK MOORE 
> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:01 PM, cyclotourist 
>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a pic of where I'm bruising my fore-arm:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4087683377/
>>>
>>> When I'm grabbing deep into the drops my arm just can't quite clear that
>>> corner.
>>>
>>
>> I have my Monocog 29er set up so that I can ride in the drops on most
>> flatter and smoother surfaces. Compared to my 3 road bikes, the Salsa Bell
>> Laps are wider 46 versus 42), further forward (thanks to the immensely long
>> effective tt of the Monocog), and quite a bit higher at 1/2" above saddle,
>> which additional height brings them back in to a similar but higher
>> position. Two things result: one, your hand and forearm enters the hook at a
>> less acute angle -- more "from the rear" instead of 'from above", meaning
>> less contact with the upper part of the hook; and, two, the Salsas seem to
>> have more flare than your bars.
>>
>> Just possibly, more flare and higher and longer stem?
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Moore
>>
>
> I have a Dirt Drop stem on now, and it's plenty high.  Definitely could be
> 2cm longer though.  I looked at the B.L. bars and they have a shallower
> shoulder radius, so that probably offers a bit more clearance.  The Dirt
> Drop bars have a pretty tight radius to maximize the flat portion.
>
> For those of you playing along at home, here are both the B.L. and W.C.:
> http://www.salsacycles.com/handlebars_road.html
>
> I put in an order for the Salsa Woodchipper which should be available later
> this month.  I'll leave the DDs on till then, just knowing I can't ride
> really fast/aggressive on singletrack with them.  If the Woodchippers don't
> work out as well as intended, my fallback plan is to go back to M-bars.
> They were great for me except for the lack of a drop position.  That only
> really comes into play when I'm doing long road rides in one position
> though.
>
> It's tough being me.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
> wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
> scientist guy
>
>
>  >
>


-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

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