For some reason beyond my understanding Flicker has switched all 5000+ of 
my photos to private!  I have been unable to find a master switch to undue 
this.  I thought I had made the album of 10 photos public, but apparently 
only one photo got switched.  I've gone back and redone it.  I apologize 
for all the confusion and inconvenience.  Here's the link again.

Michael

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I, too, can only see the picture of the rack on the car without the bikes, 
> but would like to see how you made it work. 
>
> On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked 
>> with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA 
>> rack and offer this initial review
>>
>> Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.
>>
>> First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
>> claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with 
>> my large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388
>>
>> It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
>> the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
>> trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
>> frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
>> it rock solid.
>>
>> The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or 
>> a rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
>> but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
>> fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
>> didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
>> front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
>> in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
>> the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
>> pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
>> wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
>> released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
>> bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
>>  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
>> firmly to one side.
>>
>> I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
>> road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
>> drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
>> amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
>> the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
>> absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.
>>
>> The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then 
>> folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack 
>> that I have seen.
>>
>> So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
>> bikes without any interference.
>>
>> Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
>> clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
>> working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
>> nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
>> set up, and "before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
>> who can speak about these issues."  She promised that someone would call me 
>> but no one ever has.
>>
>> C for customer service.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>

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