Saw this online yesterday, thought I'd share:

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Rat Trap Pass tires WITH fenders on an Elephant. 

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:29:27 AM UTC-5, Christian wrote:
>
> Yes, for sure, the Hunq can do all that.  I had one for a year; no doubt a 
> capable bike. For me, the Hunq felt too much like my stiff and heavy LHT. 
> The NFE feels much more like my Terraferma. It carries a load in my 
> Berthoud very well. As far s loading it up with stuff I’ve only used the 
> Berthoud so far.  Would it be slow and less responsive all loaded up? 
>  Probably.  But then 99% of the time I’m just using the GB28. I’m happy. 
>
> On Aug 4, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Ginz <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
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> How much does 'light and responsive' matter once you'd put a handlebar bag 
> on a bike and loaded it with food and gear?  I understand a light wheelset. 
>  But, if you want a light bike for gravel roads, why the disc brakes (more 
> of a rhetorical question.  I know why).  Nice, but my Hunqapillar does 
> that...doesn't it?
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