Michael: I've long had the VO Randonneur front rack on my 60cm Ram (attached with p-clamps), as well as the VO Constructeur on the rear. I've always run Giles Berthoud SS fenders under them, attached at the racks' fender mounts.
Functionally, I've never had a problem with the racks. The finish/welds were never up to Nitto standards, to my eye. Of course, I bought these many years ago (eight, maybe?). They may have improved now. These days, if I was buying VO again, I might lean toward the Constructeur on the front. I'm less interested in using p-clamps than I used to be, and there are no mid-fork eyelets on my Ram. Mark On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Michael Hechmer <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well thank you Bill, and BTW, I will be in ElCerrito 10/21 - 11/6. > > I'm looking for a new rack for my Ram, which has 700 x 29 Compass tires. > The bike already has a Bertoud decaleur so I'm not looking for the > "integrated" ones, which don't work with bags taller than 22 cm anyway. > > I have VO fenders and the integrated decaleur on my Saluki. I don't use the > integration with an Acorn bag, but the rack and fenders seem fine. > > I do have one of those L shaped fender brackets in my stash but never > thought to use it on the M1. I have to think about that. > > Yes Honjo fenders are an effort to mount, but at least once you get it right > they stay in place wonderfully. > > Michael > > > > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:03:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> Michael >> >> It definitely can be frustrating if you long for a single webpage with all >> possible rack options. I agree with your that it seems logical that >> somebody would dedicate a webpage to all possible Nitto offerings. I >> haven't found one either. American retailers all stock the subset that they >> want to stock. Maybe one of them would PDF scan whatever catalog they are >> looking at and share it. It would be nice. >> >> I think the main thrust of your OP was more tactical. What should you do >> for a front rack solution? I'll just offer this option. >> >> When I put hammered Honjos on my 650B Rivendell with SP brakes, I elected >> to mount the fender to My Mark's rack with a Honjo L-Bracket fixed to the >> front tab. That bolt fired through the L-bracket and the front lamp >> bracket. The other thing I found when executing that project, is that I >> could not achieve the kind of clearances around Hetres that I wanted, so I >> moved to 38mm tires. I bring it up because I know you don't like being >> frustrated by things, and I see a few additional opportunities for >> frustration. They are: >> >> 1. Dang it, it's hard to find info about all possible racks >> 2. dang it, there's no front rack out there that works with sidepull >> brakes, and mid fork braze ons, and can be leveled close to the fender, and >> has a fender mount on it >> 3. dang it, Honjos are hard to install >> 4. dang it, my Honjos don't fit in my hetres >> >> Anyway, I'm offering an option for number 2. Here's my flickr album. At >> least that would allow you to keep the great rack you already have. Honjo >> Install >> >> It's my opinion that the only rack option that would be superior to a >> Marks Rack on a 650B Rivendell would be a custom >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 4:32:26 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: >>> >>> Nitto seems to be intent on confusing people and making it hard to get >>> info on their product line. A recent post noted that "campee" was a line of >>> racks, which I found helpful because I have seen many different racks listed >>> under that name. Unfortunately the individual racks don't seem to have a >>> first name! >>> >>> I'm just as confused by the front rack offerings, which have >>> alpha-numeric designations. The M12 is for cantis. I understand that the >>> Mark's Rack is also sold as an M1. Ben's Cycle lists an M18, which looks >>> just like the M1 but is $20 cheaper. I think I remember seeing an M14 but >>> not what it is. What else lives out there? >>> >>> I just sprang for the Honjo Hammered fenders to replace cream longboards >>> on my Ram (didn't like the color combo or plastic in general.) and thought >>> I would replace the Mark's rack at the same time with a nice rack that has a >>> fender mount underneath. What are the best options for a front rack to work >>> with CP or SP brakes? The VO constructuer looks good and I love the Nitto >>> Campee with the removable low riders on my tandem but don't need the low >>> riders and $200+ feels like a lot to replace a small rack. >>> >>> Michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. 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