Jan's point rang very true for me too. 

All data aside, my adult cycling experience grew out of self-conducted 
recovery from an injury that made my connection to the bike less Mark 
Cavendish or Keirin racers, more about how to manage my altered 
proprioception and all-around poise that came from a solid connection to 
the bike in all phases of riding, easy or hard. 

If you don't know your foot has floated off the pedal at TDC, 
characteristics of pedals and footwear really fade on your list of 
preferences. I just needed a way to keep that one on the pedal until the 
downstroke. Wore through several shoes' uppers with strap buckles before 
clipless (Patrick has a nice pair of my old cage/strap pedals).

Better now, but I feel how completely, discretely ingrained my snapped-in 
foot connection is to everything involved in my physical act of pedaling 
and the resulting  input it provides being my baseline. I shudder at the 
memory of places I rode my mountain bike in the '80s with clips and straps 
providing that necessary connection. Was a big fan of William Neely's 
illustrations of mountain biking skills, techniques (and consequences). His 
river guides were pretty awesome too. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:27:06 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> It was not as big a feature as we had hoped; merely a sidebar to a bike 
> review where Jan briefly tried MKS Urban pedals with half clips and didn't 
> like them. His earlier blog post had let us hope that they were going to do 
> a study.
>
> Study or not, I have to say that I agree with Jan, to the point where I'd 
> rather walk in SPDs than ride in street shoes. (If I have to put on special 
> shoes for pedaling, I'd rather wear ones with cleats, and SPDs are my 
> choice.) I briefly put the Urbans on the Dahon and hated them, which is odd 
> because 5-10 years ago I used to like MKS GR-9s with clips and straps, and 
> the Urbans are better than the GR-9s.
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, George Schick <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Now that Summer is long past, does anyone who subscribes to BQ have a 
>> synopsis of what they found out about pedal retention usefulness that 
>> they'd like to share? 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 9:23:53 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Doubtless of interest to RBW listers. Quoted from the Compass blog for 
>>> those who don't read it or BQ.
>>>
>>> I'll be very interested myself, as someone hitherto convinced that 
>>> retention is a great help. If tests show that retention doesn't help, I'd 
>>> probably still keep retention on my fixed gears, for safety, and because 
>>> they do undoubtedly allow pulling up for more torque when climbing steep 
>>> hills, but would undoubtedly switch to platforms for my off road derailleur 
>>> bike.
>>>
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>>>
>>> *Jayme Frye says:May 15, 2015 at 6:27 amI was with you up until SPD 
>>> clipless pedals. I am not convinced there is any need for retention systems 
>>> outside the ultra competitive world of pro cycling (primarily sprints). 
>>> Perhaps you could use your testing methods on the claims that pedal 
>>> retention systems are more efficient and allow the rider to produce more 
>>> power by pulling up. That would make for a great BQ article.CheersReplyJan 
>>> Heine, Editor, Bicycle Quarterly says:May 15, 2015 at 6:55 amWe did test 
>>> this. It’s in the Summer issue, which will come out soon…Reply*
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