This is very odd to me because among the most precise and "intuitive" shifting I ever experienced was the Retrofriction dt shifter-cum-Am Classic-10-sp (11-23, 12-27) cassette system originally installed on my 2003 Curt. Note that these cassettes were fully stock.
The 9 s- Silver BES + home-brew cassettes that I've used on several bikes also work fine; note here that these cassettes are hacked together from miscellaneous cogs in a box with 9 sp spacers; the cogs may be 7, 8, 9, or 10 sp -- I don't know. They are also out of series, so that the ramps and cutouts are all over the place. Sure, some jumps grind a wee bit, but the needed technique quickly becomes second nature, so that it's easy to shift all the cogs even on terrain that leaves little attention to shifting since it demands it for steering. The technique in question is what one might call "subtle overshifting" -- this was the technique du jour with the old pre-indexed, pre-slant-parallelogram setups. You quickly learn to very slightly overshift and very quickly re-adjust the lever to settle the chain on the cogs. (With stock Hyperglide, on the other hand, you simply move the lever and wait for the ramps to pick up the chain.) I guess that the difference in opinion may be generational; I grew up shifting the old stuff where this overshifting technique was natural. Frankly, shifting 9 mismatched cogs with a 7410 (short throw, = less precise) rd with a friction BES works better than shifting an old 14-28 5 speed with Retrofrictions and a non-slant-parallelogram rd of some sort: this was the system I had on that erstwhile '58 Herse. The 9s shift better than the 5 did! On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Wayne Naha <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 on this. Friction shifting the 8 speed cassette on the Clem is loads > trickier than the old 5 cog freewheel. Obviously, it's a matter of > practice and familiarity, but trying it with 10? Nope! > > On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 10:44:10 AM UTC-5, Joey Korkames wrote: >> >> I find it difficult to friction shift 8+ speed clusters with "set it and >> forget it" precision. >> Trimming a 10sp must require a tailor's touch! >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ************************************* *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
