I sort-of inherited a 61 cm Homer that I named Thumper Buttercup.

My only problem with it was that it rode so well and beautifully that it
practically sang, and got me to buy another Rivendell, a QB. So that's my
warning about Rivs, it's a slippery slope and then it's like trying to pick
your favorite child when you go to your bike stable. First world problems,
I know.

But seriously, it's a great all-rounder - I've used it for short distance,
long distance, errands with heavy loads, being a lousy ride leader (I kind
of left my followers behind). It's my most comfortable bike in the stable.
And it grows on you- and I suspect like most of us who have AHH, it becomes
a part of us.

And it's very, very photogenic. Here's proof:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/albums/72157644207754985

E.



On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:08 PM, ted <ted.ke...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> I have a 56 Homer I bought through this list. As others have said the AHH
> is a really lovely bike. Whether or not its what you are looking for may
> depend on what you mean when you say "springy" or "responsive flexible
> tubing". If you are wanting the flex of a standard tube diameter thin wall
> frame that some associate with "planing", then the Homer may not be for
> you.
>
> The AHH tubing is somewhat lighter than the Hillborne or Atlantis. I think
> mine weighs about 7lbs (frame, fork, headset and binder bolt), which I
> believe is about 1.5 lbs more than a Rodeo. Like other Riv's the tubes are
> "oversized". I think my bike is quite lively and very responsive, but I
> don't think the folks who wax on about planing and thin walled standard
> sized tubes would favor the AHH.
>
> I used to ride a late 70's Nobilette built frame with then standard sized
> 531 tubes (still have it just don't ride it much). When jumping or climbing
> hard I believe I felt the frame flexing. I didn't really feel one way or
> the other about that. I really liked that bike.
> My next frame was an ~1980 Gios that had a shorter wheelbase and short
> beefy stays. I was struck by how direct and immediate the connection
> between the pedals and the contact patch of the rear tire was, and I really
> liked that. The handling was also very precise and very responsive, which
> was kinda great (particularly riding crits and such). I immediately much
> preferred the Gios for the riding I was doing at the time, though it was
> kinda unforgiving and perhaps not so great (still have that bike too).
> When I got my Homer the first real ride I took had me thinking of Will
> Smith in 4th of July yelling "I have got to get me one of these". It was
> (and still is) comfy. It's handling was (and still is) responsive and
> precise without seeming the least bit twitchy, and the sense of immediate
> and direct connection between pushing on the pedals and the bike jumping
> foreword was (and still is) every bit as strong and solid as the Gios.
> Since I changed tires from 32s to 42s the handling seems a bit more stable
> or slightly less quick but I still like it a lot. The next tires I buy for
> it will probably be 38s.
>
> I frequently ride with a group in which my AHH is the only non MCFRB.
> Sometimes one of the guys will say its amazing what I can do on that bike.
> I tell them the bike is not a handicap, though my fat belly is. I also ride
> it wherever I want. Paved roads, fire roads, wide trails, single track. The
> MCFRB guys I ride with seem unwilling to venture off the pavement on those
> bikes. Once when I said I had ridden a route they were saying you couldn't
> do on a road bike the response was "yea but that bike goes anywhere".
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 2:51:40 AM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Many other Rivs get a lot of press here, but I really haven't heard much
>> on the Homer. Curious about the ride of this bike - it's liveliness as
>> compared to an Atlantis or Hillborne. Is its tubing relatively lighter? Is
>> it a softer feel? Is it more beautiful?
>>
>> Considering one as my all round dirt road bike and looking for something
>> springy with centerpulls and clearance for 38s with fenders.
>>
>
> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 4:09:43 PM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Thank you all for your considered ideas on this bike - its great to hear
>> more about it.
>>
>> I'm considering it among the Riv lineup as a potential dirt road
>> randonneuring/pass hunting bike. I live and ride at the top of VT in the
>> Northeast Kingdom - if you look at a map, there aren't really any major
>> roads. Its a very rural area, I'm sure there aren't any other Riv bikes,
>> and every ride I do is 95% dirt road. I want something that works well with
>> a front load (15 lbs. or so) and has responsive, flexible tubing. I'm long
>> and lean at 6' 3", 175 lbs.
>>
>> I'm attracted to the Homer because it seems like it might be the bike in
>> Riv's lineup that has the lightest tubing for a bike with good tire
>> clearances ( at least 38 is mandatory for the roads I ride) and center
>> pulls.
>>
>> Any other ideas? If I want a Riv, is this the bike for me?
>>
>> With a PBH of 90, should I go for the 61 or the 63?
>>
>> Thanks folks. Always wonderful having the list's input.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:33:17 PM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a Homer, Ram (650b for brevets) and a Roadeo, so I am leaning to
>>> the lively side of Riv bikes. I weigh 150 and have a 54 cm 650b Homer. I
>>> have ridden it on a 600k brevet with PariMoto tires and it did great.
>>> After I converted my Ram to 650b (with 42 mm Hetres), I converted the Homer
>>> to my deluxe commuter with rear rack etc. I find the Homer rides with some
>>> spring and flex when I load it up with about 20 lbs of groceries/commute
>>> bags, so I suppose if you weigh 170, the Homer could be ideal (although the
>>> weight distribution would be different than with rear bags).
>>>
>>> Much like the Sam, I think the Homer fits between the brevet/club bike
>>> and the credit card tourer.  A wonderful bike no doubt!!
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:04 PM, William R. <wrom...@optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's awesome. I don't recall seeing that before. Get one if you can!
>>>>
>>>> Bill in Westchester, NY
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