If I recall correctly, Grant has suggested that 1) the cost of tubes is such a small fraction of the total cost of a frame that it doesn't make any sense to try and save money there. 2) there is a lot more to a bike than the particular tubes it is made out of, and that getting all wrapped up in exactly what tubes were used is not particularly helpful for an end customer.
I think that RBW stopped putting tubing stickers on their frames early on for reasons similar to those for generally not publishing weights for their frames (e.g. they don't think we should worry about it), and that the new silver tube sticker is there because those tubes were drawn to their spec and have some unique features that they are a bit proud of. Also since it's their tube set, they get to design the sticker. All that said, I think I read somewhere that the built to order frames (i.e. Atlantis, AHH, Rodeo) used heat treated tubing, and the more production frames did not. On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 9:27:18 AM UTC-8, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Drew, > > Thanks for the reply. > > I would assume the same as you except for 2 thoughts > > 1. The AHH price may reflect the higher costs Waterford (or any > American shop) has. It may NOT reflect higher grade tubing costs, > Although > one would think the AHH uses "better (higher strength)" tubing the Sam > 2. The lack of tubing sticker, like True Temper OxPlatnium, or > Reynolds 853, on the AHH may indicate such tubing is NOT used. I think RBW > would want you to know it was 853, as an example.. > > > On the positive side, the price difference in the 3 main tubes is about > $70 for True Temper OxPlat compared to True Temper Versus (not heat > treated, similar to the Sam Silver tubing, ref, Henry James tubing > catalog). So perhaps the AHH has the higher strength tubing and more built > margin to failure. > > I thought all RBWs use OS tubes (since early 2000) and I thought the > Saluki (and by extension the AHH) used 0.8/0.5/0.8 mm wall thickness > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > > On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 11:14:56 AM UTC-5, drew wrote: > >> This is just a guess. I think it's on the sam because the sam uses riv's >> spec'd "silver" tubing. My assumption is that the AHH uses a more expensive >> name brand tubing, like the rest of the more expensive rivendells. You >> could probably call and ask them. >> It's a beautiful decal though. My sam doesn't have one, but now I wish it >> did. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
