>Wouldn't OS 8/5 and 9/6 be very stiff?  

Dear John,

For a 55cm frame (really a 57-58 once the top tube slope and extended head 
tube is accounted for)? Yep. Sure is. 

However it is consistent with the consensus good practice for dedicated 
offroad machines--and (rear-loading) touring bikes. It is still a lighter 
spec than almost all the Surly offerings or a Miyata 1200, and as light as 
most of Rivendell's offerings. Only the Legolas had a lighter tube spec, 
and their recent take on a "road" bike, the Roadeo, has an OS 8/5 top tube 
and OS 9/6 downtube. I had a ball on my Heron, though it doesn't climb for 
me as well as some other machines. It is still smooth, comfortable, and 
well-behaved when used within its design limitations.

Best,

Will

William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 4:27:40 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:
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> William deRosset wrote:
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>> The Heron Touring bikes were almost all 700C machines (the 53 cm was the 
>> exception), with 8/5 OS top tube and 9/6 OS downtubes (they were definitely 
>> O/S and I believe those are the gauges of my 1998-produced model),
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> Bill
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> Wouldn't OS 8/5 and 9/6 be very stiff?   A TT OS 8/5 is stiffer (less 
> deflection with a center load) than 1" TT of 10/7 and a DT OS 9/6 is 
> stiffer than a 1-1/8" 11/8.  These STD size tubes are pretty stiff. 
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
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