If I may put a plug in for another alternative, it's the Selle Anatomica either with or without the slot - without the slot, it's quite cheap, long lasting, and very very comfortable. They're 70.00 new. I have found with the Brooks, once they get rained on and molded into the "wrong" shape, it's hard to get them out of that ridge in the center shape; but sometimes the rain actually helps break them in. I have one that's almost 30 years old, and while it's beat up, it's quite comfortable; then I have a 2 year old one that was great til it had the knife blade profile from rain...since then, un changeable. Contrarily the selle anatomicas were great right out of the box, and only have gotten better. The first one I got on ebay has the slot, and the seller was nice enough to toss in matching leather bar tape; the next 2 were new and without the slot, and are equally comfortable right out of the box; and they seem to have a long life span as well.
On Nov 29, 4:31 pm, Pete <pedalling.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > John, your not alone. I've bought four Swift saddles as good as new > from people who for various reasons didn't get on with them. I also > had trouble with setting up the first one and ended up moving it all > the way back and raised the nose slightly. From then on it's has been > very comfy and just getting better each year. > > On Nov 29, 9:36 pm, John Ferguson <rfj1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > "The pictures of of John's Toei with the > > Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position" > > > That was one of many unsuccessful experiments in positioning that > > saddle. I'm just not comfortable in the crotch of the banana :-) > > > Again, as I emphasized--saddles are a very individual choice. I think > > if you compare a Brooks and a Berthoud, it's clear which one is better > > constructed. > > > However, quality is really a secondary consideration. Considering how > > much time I spend on a bike, even if the Brooks had to be replaced > > every 2 years because of shoddy construction, I'd use it if it were > > more comfortable. > > > Luckily the Berthoud works better for my backside. In fact, I was > > impressed enough to write the review (something I'd never ordinarily > > bother doing). Your mileage may vary. > > > John > > > On Nov 29, 1:27 pm, RonaTD <teddur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > Ditto on the suggestion for B17 owners to spend time playing with the > > > tilt if you're having sliding trouble. The right tilt appears to be > > > very much a function of how upright your position is. More upright, > > > more nose up. I don't have a particularly upright position - handlebar > > > tops a bit below saddle on most of my bikes, and I find I need the > > > nose higher than the tail. The pictures of of John's Toei with the > > > Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position. In my experience, > > > people are reluctant to bring the nose up as high as it really needs > > > to be. My wife complained about sliding forward on the B67 on her > > > Glorius and I ended up raising the nose to what I thought was a > > > ridiculous amount. "Eureka!" Instant comfort and joy. > > > > Personally, my biggest problem with B17 saddles is the amount they > > > warp and twist. > > > > Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
