If they did away with the DTT on the 59 cm size, it would be similar to the 
largest size single-top-tube frames offered by most major brands. The 
Specialized's in "61" for example, have a seat tube that is really quite a few 
cm less than 61 cm. (What they call "61" is an effective 61 if you ran an 
imaginary horizontal line along the top tube to the seatpost.)

So what I'm saying is that a San Marcos 59, if that were the largest size made, 
would be the bike that sales people on the bike shop would be convincing the 
6'3" and 6'4"'s among us to make work for ourselves. ("We'll just use a longer 
stem and a longer seatpost.") The situation would be a lot like the way it is 
when tall people buy a bike from "the other guys."

So along comes the 63 cm offering. The San Marcos true 63 with its sloping top 
tube is like what another brand would call a "66" or "67." That 63 cm San 
Marcos frame is a BIG frame in the mainstream bike sales arena. But the thing 
is that few other brands actually sell anything that they would call a 66 or 
67. So in that respect, a salesperson could make a case for the San Marcos with 
its 63 cm actual seat tube. "This here frame is unique. This one will actually 
fit you, Mr. Tall Man. Most other brands don't design to your needs. These guys 
do. The double top tube is part of that design. It'll ride better for you this 
way, because you are so tall." Extra tubes in very tall frames is something 
that's been done for awhile, although in the late 20th century, I think it was 
more common in level top tube frames that got greater than 68 cm.

So I think the only thing hard to explain to the general public is the DTT in 
the 59 cm frame. Since the forthcoming Sam Hillbornes are going to single TT in 
the 58 cm frames (the logic being that people opting for that instead of 
Appaloosa are less likely to need it) perhaps a good idea moving forward (if 
the companies decide to keep the San Marcos going) is to do only DTT in the 63 
cm. DTT in 63 cm make a lot of sense in my opinion.

-Jim W.


On Jan 16, 2016, at 11:25 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

> This.
> 
> I'm not anti-DTT, but have fully consumed the Kool-Aide. I can't
> imagine even trying to explain it to the general bike-buying public.
> 
> It's the equivalent of opening up a conversation with a description of
> your favorite RPG 12th level elf-princess wizard with a stranger at a
> bar. Not that I would know anything about that.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 8:48 AM, A CT Cyclist <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's really a shame. Makes me want to buy another one. Perhaps if they did
>> away with the double top tube in the larger sizes it would appeal to more
>> non Riv folks.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
> 
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
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