at 3:55 PM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote: > Hugh asked: > > > "Speaking of geometry, since Grant and company are revising the Atlantis > (longer chainstays) how is that going to make it a better bike? " > > *It won't make it a better bike unless you decide you like it better. It > will make it a different bike. I trust both old and new Atlantii will be > excellent, but different. * >
So often when a designer or manufacturer updates a given design it's lauded as "better" or at the least regarded that way by adherents. But I agree not necessarily better just different. > > "I've also heard others mention that they've had the front end lift up on > them as they were climbing. That seems like a poorly distributed load > situation to me with too much weight in the rear. I've never experienced > this on either my Hilsen or my Atlantis? What gives here? " > > *On a really steep hill with an upright cockpit your whole body is poorly > distributed with too much weight on the rear. There's a ~20% section on > one approach up the hill to my house, and it's hard keeping the front end > down on an upright bike. No matter what your position, there is a hill > steep enough that will cause the front end to lift. One solution is don't > ride up >20% grades. Another is bend down. Another is put more weight in > front. There are other solutions. Maybe longer stays will be one.* > Well on a >20% hill any bike's front end is going to want to rise up. On my road bike that would most certainly be true and I'd be out of the saddle partly due to gearing and to shift my weight to the front end to keep it down. With a loaded tour bike I suspect most would be walking and having longer chain stays on a >20% hill I suppose would help but most likely in a negligible way. I think in most practical applications I don't see many benefits other than your heel strike point below. > > "Seems to me that longer chain stays will make it a bit more stable and > possibly a slightly poorer climber." > > *That's a reasonable guess. When you ride one for yourself, you'll be > able to judge for yourself. For sure big-footed people who like big rear > panniers will love the extra heel clearance. My guess is that it won't be > a poorer climber, but it's just a guess. My Joe Appaloosa will be here in > just a couple weeks! I'll let you know what I think. * > No plans to ride an Appaloosa anytime soon. I did ride a Proto-Appaloosa last time I was at Riv Hq and I was underwhelmed. Just curious how others will characterize the new changes? I'll be interested in your ride notes. Which of course will be subjective but none the less interesting. "I've also heard from folks that the Atlantis is dead unloaded? Again not > my experience, unloaded the Atlantis feels downright lively." > > *Not my experience either. My 58cm 700c Atlantis doesn't feel dead to me, > but dead is in the eye of the beholder. * > Yup. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipeedemusings.com/ > > >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cerNIKH36P0/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
