I see those as well, Bill.

In my judgment, they don't have a good value proposition when compared to
the Grand Cru 50.4.
1.  They're ugly
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Sakae-CX-Triple-touring-crankset-170mm-50-46-30T-110BCD-square-Taper-6-7sp-/262273172495?hash=item3d10b3040f:g:75AAAOSwvUlWsRaY>,
especially the Exage
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-Triple-Crankset-Willow-Chainrings-50-46-30-Half-Step-Touring-110-74-/172100875463?hash=item281202f4c7:g:zskAAOSwzgRWv7-g>
!
2.  They would still require a chain guard, or sawing off teeth to create
one.
3.  They'd still have a wider BCD

Thanks for your assistance!

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:

> I see two cranksets on ebay with 52/46/30 and one of those has 175mm arms.
> It's $99 with apparently new Willow rings.
>
> Crankset 1
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-Triple-Crankset-Willow-Chainrings-50-46-30-Half-Step-Touring-110-74-/172100875463?hash=item281202f4c7:g:zskAAOSwzgRWv7-g>
>
> My ebay search term was 46/30 and limited to bicycle parts.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 11:09:10 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> Bill, thanks for your pointers!
>>
>> Yes, I'm looking for a 175 mm crank arm.  172.5 would probably be OK.
>>
>> I'd consider a triple-converted-to-chainguard-plus double, but it would
>> need to have the correct rings.  Changing rings always ends up costing as
>> much or more than getting the right rings to start with (I could use my
>> Stronglight 99, but the cost for the proper rings and guard would be higher
>> than $150, if they even exist).
>>
>> I can get the VO double for $167 plus shipping, so that is forming my
>> upper price constraint.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe it doesn't matter to you, or maybe you've overlooked it.  My
>>> apologies in advance if it was deliberate, but most people on this small
>>> family of boards are pretty persnickety about crank arm length.  If you
>>> care what crank arm length you are looking for, you should probably tell
>>> your prospective seller what that desired crank arm length is.
>>>
>>> My standard approach is to look for 94bcd arms.  The Sugino/Ritchey
>>> offerings and the Sugino Mighty 900 are my favorite two.  Those were made
>>> in 172.5, so I keep my eyes open for them all the time and buy them when I
>>> find them cheap, whether I need them or not.
>>>
>>> I have also had success setting up a half-step triple as a compact
>>> double.  Buy a 52/46/30, shave the teeth off the 52, and you've got a sweet
>>> chainguard/46/30.  Those are often gettable in good 1980s quality for
>>> really cheap.  The last two of those I found were Sugino AT (which
>>> unfortunately needs a really long BB spindle).
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a wide-low crankset for my Roadeo, to provide
>>>> adequately low gearing with a 12-28 cassette.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like:
>>>> * 46/30 or similar gearing.  48/32, or odd-numbered near facsimiles
>>>> would probably work ok.  I'm not interested in a 110 mm BCD compact; I want
>>>> a smaller inner BCD.
>>>> * Silver arms and rings, classic apprearance
>>>> * Standard/modern threading.  If you're offering a French crank, please
>>>> include the appropriate extractor tool.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to spend $150 or less, including shipping.
>>>>
>>>> Or, I could trade:
>>>> * Stronglight 99 crankset, with 52/42/30 rings (and at least one 40t
>>>> spare) and a loose-ball Campagnolo Record BB
>>>> * Grand Bois Cerf Blue 700 x 26 tires, with <500 miles of wear
>>>> * Short reach brakes (Shimano or Sachs/Modolo)
>>>> * Long reach brakes (Tektro R559)
>>>> * Kool stop brake pads
>>>> * Handlebars (Nitto moustache, Easton compact drops (31.8 clamp), maybe
>>>> others)
>>>> * Tires (26" Super Motos or Fat Franks, new 650 x 38 Pari-motos)
>>>> * Sackville Large Trunksack, olive with light beausage
>>>> * Dynamo tail lights (Top line or Secula)
>>>> * R&M handlebar dynamo light mount
>>>> * Probably other goodies in my parts stash, ask away!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tim Gavin
>>>> Cedar Rapids, IA
>>>>
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