My recollection is that the tubes were heavier on the Hillborne.           
 Jim D.          Massachusetts

On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 12:41:38 AM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
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> Not sure about the Chev/Clem part of your questions, but regarding 
> Hillborne/Homer, you are basically right. The only detail I'll add is that 
> the Hillborne was introduced as a bike that is halfway between Homer and 
> Atlantis. Having ridden both, I think Homer is faster.
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> On Mar 13, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Zed Martinez wrote:
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> Wasn't the Hillborne more or less literally just a Homer-like bike with 
> the expanded geo/fewer sizes and made in Taiwan things? That was the 
> impression I always got from the Readers when they announced them, anyway.
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> I wonder if the rider weight thing with the Chev is the step-through and 
> lack of TT thing. Makes me also wonder if the numbers are likewise 
> different for the Clem/entines.
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> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 8:52:21 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
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>> that's an interesting table that zed posted. im sort of surprised that 
>> the cheviot can handle more loads (but less rider weight) than a hillborne, 
>> and that the hilsen and hillborne are so similarly maxed out.  
>>
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