On 03/16/2016 09:46 PM, drew wrote:
*let me set this up. *

the first bike i ever really built was this 1984 trek 420 mixte for my wife (then girlfriend of 1 year). i stripped it down, had it powdercoated and put it back together with og parts and was very proud of myself. since then, ive built 5 or 6 more bikes up and slowly started noticing all the haphazard work that i had done on the 420. So, over time, i ended up acquiring parts for a 650b conversion, new cockpit, new crank, etc (thanks list). here it is.

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its pretty much good to go, minus this happening when in *granny + lower gears* (not a common ratio, im aware)

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i assume this means i need a longer cage derailleur? chain is/was measured according to the sheldon method.


If you want to do this you need a longer cage derailleur. You could always just eschew using granny and small sprockets, there's no point in using that combination at all. (BTW, the little ones are higher, not lower gears.)


*question 2:*

i have an altus rd on my sam hillborne that is not performing optimally as of late, and im thinking about exchanging it for something nicer. i like the idea of the shadow derailleurs, but dont fully comprehend them and their compatibility. running 8 speed, friction. what new rear derailleurs do people like?


What's to not fully comprehend? They work just fine - or, at least as well as any derailleurs running 8 speed friction. YMMV on that: some find that easy, others get too much ghost shifting.



*question 3:*

since the trek 420, my wife got a clem (which she adores). this puts the 420 on long car-rack ride/dangerous lock up location/friend borrowing duty. would putting the sam's altus on the trek make sense to solve that cage/chain rub? she is a very light duty and duration rider, so the ghost shifts under pressure and weird noises wont happen or bother her.


Is the cage long enough?


*in summary:*

-what rear derailleur should i put on my 8 speed, frictioned sam?

-is that chain/derailleur contact on the trek solved by a longer cage derailleur?

-if yes, would the altus be a good option?



Your first best option, which applies regardless of choice of rear derailleur, is JUST DON'T DO THAT.


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