I rode the Race Lite yestiddy, at least half on pavement. The Maxxis Ikons
rode suprisingly well on pavement -- not as well as the road-fast F Freds,
but very well give their heavy knobs. I attribute a good part of their
rolling quality to the fact that I run the without tubes -- really,
removing tubes seems to be the equivalent of going from, say, a Kojak to a
Compass Extra Light. I daresay that the quality of the tires converted
affects the degree of difference, but it is still striking.

BTW, I am convinced that tall, heavily knobbed tires *do* add considerable
wind resistance compared to a road slick when riding into a stiff headwind.
Windy says here in Duke City!

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Tim Gavin <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I have 26 x 2.1" Thunder Burts (Evo Liteskin) on my '88 Schwinn KOM.  They
> are surprisingly quiet and fast on pavement, no buzzing.  They are just as
> quiet and grippy when cornering as the nearly-slick Super Motos.  They fit
> great under SKS P65 longboards.
>
> I highly recommend Bike-discount.de for all your Schwalbe tire needs.
> They have the Evo Liteskin (most supple) version for ~$34 a tire.
> http://www.bike-discount.de/en/search?q=burt
> They charge a flat ~$23 shipping fee to the US, so you may want to pad
> your order with other stuff.  They have excellent prices on anything
> Shimano (including the non-US Trekking line), as well as B&M dynamo lights.
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:01 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Patrick--I notice in your photo sets you and the girls are usually on
>> non-paved surfaces. The Thunderburts look to have a pretty decent set of
>> knobs, especially on the edges. How does this affect riding on paved roads
>> and also cornering at speed? Any loss of contact issues, or buzzing? Also,
>> seem to come in a bewildering array of options. Jensen has what appears to
>> be a big sale going on these if they are the same tire.
>> 2.1" Pacestar Liteskin
>> 2.1" Snakeskin, TI Ready
>> 2.25" Pacestar Snakeskin TI Easy
>>
>> Sheesh.
>>
>> Does a 2.1 fit under Clem w fenders, or do they come 1.9?
>>
>> On the more general idea of supple tires for a bicycle like the
>> Clementine, I am feeling pretty good with the not quite stock tires on mine
>> (a packing incident led to me getting the stock Kenda in front and a
>> Schwalbe Big Ben in rear) but I do notice the bike does not roll as far as
>> other bikes on the same route. I was initially going to go for the Compass
>> Switchback EL and run them with Orange Seal, as that seems almost as
>> failsafe as an armored tire (and, knock wood, I do not generally get many
>> flats). I'm skeptical that the TBurt treads will work for my mostly paved
>> commute, so I'd like to hear from others who have tried 48-50mm 650B tires
>> for performance.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 6:54:37 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> The supple, all road tire I ride and put on my daughter's 650b
>>> Clementines for all road/trail bikepacking is Schwalbe's Thunderburt (no
>>> snakebite or other protection). Rides like a dream. They very much noticed
>>> (and love) the difference from the stock tires. We ordered from Germany and
>>> that brought the price down to something reasonable per tire.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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