True stick shifting at it's finest! Sounds like a great setup, Patrick (though it'd be exceedingly difficult to market). I may have come on a little strong in saying FD's are entirely stupid and useless, but for my purposes they don't make sense. I fancied the idea of bikepacking when I bought the Plus, but haven't actually done much of it, mostly because I hate riding steeps with a loaded bike. If I were to take on some serious bikepacking trips, I think I would just switch to a 28t front chainring for that purpose as another type of "manual shift". For 97% of the miles I'd do, 1X10 is awesome. -- Mike
On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Fantastic, Mike! The 1x drive train is wondrous, isn't it? > > I run a hybrid of sorts on my Hunqapillar, that gives me the range of a > 2x9 but the simplicity of a 1x9. My outer chain ring is effectively a bash > guard (I never use it, as it only offers 1 gear substantially higher than > my middle ring.). To do this I: > > - removed my front derailer > - middle ring is a Wolf Wide Narrow 38t > - Granny is smallest they make, (24t?) > - hand shift front rings > > How does this play out in the real world? I am almost always in my middle > ring (38t) for all riding except bikepacking. Occasionally on long steep > trails unloaded I'll shift to the granny. Bikepacking, is nearly 100% in > the granny gear, save for mild long dirt road sections connecting sections. > > I love it! > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 9:44:25 PM UTC-6, Mike in WA wrote: >> >> >> I just got back from my first proper ride with the new 1X10 drivetrain on >> my Jones Plus and I can say it's the best improvement I've ever made to a >> bike. I was having major trouble with chain drops and poor shifting on my >> 2X9 setup so I converted to 1X10 using a Wolf Tooth 32t ring, XT clutch >> derailer, the new Sunrace 11-42 cassette, and a Microshift 10-speed thumb >> shifter to replace my Silver shifters. The psychic liberation of not having >> to even think about a front derailer, gear overlap and cross-chaining made >> shifting a breeze and helped me to be more present in the ride. Also helps >> that I wasn't having to stop, don a nitrile glove and curse at my FD! I >> found that I lost nothing that I needed on the high gear-inch end, and I >> still maintained my exact same low gear from before. >> >> My riding performance priorities are: 1) capable and easy to use mountain >> bike 2) reliable commuter 3) gravel/dirt bike with adequate gear range. >> This setup seems likely to nail all of those with aplomb, though I haven't >> had a chance to mountain bike with this rig yet. I expect that the ease and >> improved reliability of shifting will allow me to get better at climbing >> instead of just giving up when the god damn shifting doesn't work! If >> you're doing any riding other than road racing, I can't see how a double or >> triple chainring setup could be better. Front derailers are stupid and >> unnecessary, IMO. >> >> I feel a bit like an outsider who posts off-topic too much on this list >> since I've ditched all of my Rivendells, but I think this type of setup >> really accords with the values/goals of most of you lugged steel people >> have. I think a Hunqapillar, Clem/Clementine, Joe, or Sam would all be >> awesome with a 1X10 drivetrain. I felt like a bit of a traitor going to >> indexed shifting, but that also might be something worth considering. With >> the relatively large jumps on an 11-42 cassette, I found the indexing to be >> quite appropriately stepped and easy to use. It's kind of nice having that >> solid click working for you. This is coming from someone who rode friction >> or fixed gears for the past 10+ years. This new-fangled Dynasys 10-speed >> universe is actually quite nice, I promise. >> >> Here's the bike <http://imgur.com/h0rtZCh> >> >> Over and out. >> >> Mike in WA >> >> >> >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
