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Royce bottom bracket On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > FWIW, when I first bought a Phil bb for my '99 gofast fixed gear, I called > Phil and asked if the ti spindle would hold up to grunting up hills in a > 75" gear. The rep on the phone said, "Oh yes, you don't have to worry, we > have track sprinters use them." So far, so good. > > FWIW and YMMV and so forth. If I were to buy another bb, at least for any > other bike than the lightweight gofast, I'd at least seriously consider a > SKF bb -- what's not to like apart from 100 grams?i But there have been > plenty of ti square taper bbs on the market, of which I've owned at least 4 > or 5 different models, and at least 7 different instances overall, and I > don't recall hearing stories about breakage. > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Jan Heine <hein...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> The old cup-and-cone bottom brackets were great when I was a student with >> more time than money. Back then, I enjoyed working on bottom brackets. But >> it never made sense from a monetary perspective. Even at $ 7 an hour, >> overhauling my BB twice a year was $ 14 in time alone. If the BB lasts 10 >> years, I've spent $ 140 of my time. And the cup-and-cone BB wasn't cheap - >> I recall a Campy BB costing (back then) $ 80. In today's dollars, that >> would be more than an SKF BB. >> >> These days, I am terribly busy, and I prefer riding my bike over working >> on it. That is why money spent on components that I never have to think >> about is money well spent. All too often does it happen on Bicycle >> Quarterly test bikes that the night before a big ride, I discover a problem >> and have to scramble to fix it. And these are new bikes! >> >> As to BB weight, there isn't much you can do. Yes, you can replace the >> spindle with titanium, but remember that titanium is much less strong than >> steel. And when BB spindles were originally designed, the engineers who >> designed them weren't stupid. They made them as big as they need to be, >> using very strong CrMo steel. Even a stainless spindle will be less strong. >> Replacing a CrMo part with an identically dimensioned titanium part invites >> trouble. >> >> You could design a BB with a titanium spindle, but you'd have to start >> from scratch. You'd make the bottom bracket shell of the bike bigger to >> make room for the bigger spindle. You'd make the crank bigger, too, so the >> bigger spindle fits. The end result probably would be heavier than what you >> started with. >> >> There is a way around this, by using a lighter material for the cranks, >> too. That is why carbon cranks make sense only with modern BBs and vice >> versa. (The original Campy carbon cranks with a square taper were heavier >> than our René Herse aluminum cranks!) The carbon cranks actually aren't >> lighter than aluminum ones, but the BB is lighter, so overall, you save >> weight. However, much of the savings come from the tiny bearings, which you >> need to replace annually on most models. >> >> I am a lightweight rider, and I don't tend to break components, so I >> sometimes am tempted by a titanium spindle. Then I think of the >> consequences if it breaks (almost certain to crash), and I realize that >> it's not worth the risk. >> >> It's interesting to note that none of the titanium BBs are made by >> companies who have their components fatigue-tested to the universally >> accepted industry standards. >> >> Disclosure: Compass Bicycles Ltd. sell SKF bottom brackets. >> >> Jan Heine >> Compass Bicycles Ltd. >> www.compasscycle.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > ************************************************************************** > ************** > *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu > > *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the > world revolves.) *Carthusian motto > > *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart > > *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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