Plus one on the ankle reflector.  Riv is currently out of stock.

Curtis

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:

> In my opinion, I think Scott has gotten to the heart of the matter, even
> though I'm not sure he knows it.  Scott said:
>
> "Day / Night visibility is an issue for everyone, not just bicyclists.
> Its because every driver is different and will key in, fixate on and notice
> different things."
>
> and then he really cut to the chase with:
>
> "Sorry, but when drivers don't see other cars... we are all screwed."
>
> We all know and realize that "being seen" is a thing, and it's a smart
> thing to do.  If you are invisible, and somebody hits you, then it's your
> fault.  Most of us know that "target fixation" is also a thing.  Some
> people, like Jan, use 'target fixation' to support the hypothesis that it
> is possible to be 'too visible'.  Jan acknowledges his hypothesis is not
> proven one way or the other, but it is an informed hypothesis.
>
> The thing Scott gets to is that 'target fixation' is not purely a property
> of the target.  'Target fixation' is something an *impaired driver* might
> do.  It's always a drunk driver, a tired pilot, a distracted (texting)
> driver, or an old person, who target fixates and runs over a highly visible
> person.  When an impaired driver target fixates and kills a cyclist, we
> have no way of knowing whether that impaired driver would have not target
> fixated if the cyclist had been wearing less reflective gear.  I have never
> read a target fixation study that concludes reflective gear and lights
> CAUSE impairment in drivers.  I have only seen studies that conclude that
> impaired drivers tend to fixate on bright lights.  So, when it comes to
> impaired drivers, as Scott said "we're screwed".  We all know some impaired
> driver is going to run over some unlucky cyclist very soon, and there is
> probably nothing we can do to prevent that from happening.
>
> So, if we're at the mercy of fortune that an impaired driver doesn't run
> us over from behind, then that leaves us to focus on what we CAN control,
> and that's our visibility to drivers that are not impaired.  Again, I've
> never seen a study that suggests being more visible will make an alert,
> awake and focused driver run you over.  Conspicuity should send the simple
> message "I am a person on a bicycle and I'm right here".  An alert,
> non-impaired driver can deal with that message.  You send the message that
> you are a person on a bicycle with reflectors and/or lights on both feet.
> Nothing else on the road moves like your feet on a bicycle.  A red-light,
> required by law, might establish that you are a vehicle, and that's fine.
> A bright triangle says "caution" to every good driver out there.
>
> In my opinion, the smartest set up is two of these ankle reflectors, one
> on each ankle:  http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/re1.htm
> Plus this small triangle hanging from your seat rails:
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/re6.htm
> Add to that your favorite red solid taillight so you don't get in trouble
> with Johnny-Law.
>
> Just my opinion on the matter
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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