24# Hillborne!? Now you've got me considering a 2x8 or even 1x8 drivetrain. What wheels are you using? Loved the description of your dirt road custom. That would be an awesome bike. Upping the clearances for a 2.0 tire would be great. Rear tire clearance and the bottom bracket drop have been my only reservations on my Summer Break Sam. Truly love the bike but have scraped a few pedals with the lower bottom bracket. Would love one of those 650b Hunqs Grant was hinting at in the Blug. With that as an N+1, I'd strip the Sam down considerably.
Thanks for the response. John On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 7:58:47 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > John > > The Hillborne and the Atlantis are still in my stable, and they are both > terriffic. Frequently, these days, I get the opportunity to get out for > just a couple hours and I walk into the garage not knowing which bike I'm > going to take. The Hillborne and the FatLantis get selected pretty > frequently. The Atlantis is definitely more stout, and it's a heavier > build. With a 3x8 drivetrain, heavier rims, wider wirebead tires, and a > Brooks saddle, the Atlantis is probably 28 pounds or so. The Hillborne > hasn't worn Rock and Road tires in a while, and it's set up as a dirtable > road bike with 700x38 Barlow Pass Extralight tires, and has a 2x9 > drivetrain. It's a little under 24 pounds. > > I have been contemplating my ultimate dirt road bike, and often come up > with my list of attributes and find that I'm describing either the Atlantis > or the Hillborne or both. If I was to order a custom Rivendell today, it > would have the bottom bracket shell and chainstays of an Atlantis. I think > that particular part of the Atlantis is bordering on a masterpiece. > Unsquished round cross section tubing, in a generously stout diameter, that > wraps around a 29x2.0 tire, allows room for a triple crankset, with correct > chainline *AND* a respectably narrow Q-factor is not easy, and Grant > nailed it. Cut and paste that into my custom! It would have the same > seatstay setup as an Atlantis, but would have Legolas dropouts and seatstay > tubing. The fork would have the Atlantis crown with Legolas fork blades. > The sloping top tube and HTA would match the Hillborne, but again the > maintubes (TT, DT and ST) would be the lightest tubing Grant would allow me > to spec, presumably like a Legolas. It would be stripped bare of > braze-ons, save fenders and two bottle cages. The cantilever posts would > be set up perfectly for 25-26mm wide rims. If I had this done and sensible > build, I could maybe end up with a 22 pound dirt road bike. Since I have > the Hillborne and the Atlantis, I don't feel any particular need to move on > that custom idea. Maybe if I had to downsize my current "N" I could > replace two bikes with one, but I don't feel any need or compulsion to do > that today. > > Bill > > > > On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote: >> >> Bill, >> >> How does the Fat-lantis differ from the Hunqa-Hillborne you built up in >> 2014. >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157626464189260 >> That build was the inspiration for my Summer Break Sam. >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/ >> >> Just curious what differences you noticed. >> >> John >> >> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of >>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike". That's not >>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" >>> knobbies. Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on >>> them. They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team. Now the >>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch. If you wanted a >>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do >>> it. It should be fun for some summer trail riding. >>> >>> FAT-Lantis2 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/26102304722/> >>> >>> Bill Lindsay >>> El Cerrito, CA >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
